The Craig Biggio situation has reopened the topic of stick pins. I thought we had pretty much covered everyone who’d pinned something to his cap or uniform (Billy Martin, Bucky Dent, Manny Ramirez, Reggie Jackson, Joey Cora), but two days ago I got the following note from a reader named Tom Shannon: “I think you overlooked the biggest pin of them all. Check out Mark Davis’s 1985 Topps card. Not only is the pin prevalent because of its size, but the thing is bright orange!!”
I looked and came up with this very lo-res scan of the card in question, which does appear to show a pin on Davis’s cap. Shannon said it’s a Giants pin, although neither of us could find a better photo of it.
I was going to ask if anyone knew more about this, but then yesterday I got a note from reader Eric Vanderburght:
I seem to remember members of the 1983 San Francisco Giants wearing orange Croix de Candlestick pins on their caps that year. The Giants used to give out these pins to fans that stayed to the end of extra-inning night games at Candlestick Park. I believe the Latin phrase on the pin means “I came, I stayed, I survived.”
Although I was only 12 at the time, I remember Atlee Hammaker was wearing one of the pins during the 1983 All-Star Game when he gave up the grand slam to Fred Lynn.
The funny thing is, I was watching that All-Star Game myself, and I don’t recall having noticed Hammaker’s cap pin. Guess my brain hadn’t yet matured into full Uni Watch mode.
Meanwhile, I’m curious to know more about these Croix de Candlestick pins (one of which is currently available on eBay, incidentally). Since they were intended for the fans, how and why did the players start wearing them? How many players wore them? I demand answers!
Uni Watch News Ticker: According to this article (sent my way by Matt French), Manny Ramirez poaches clothing from his teammates’ lockers. Key quote, from Miguel Batista: “He’ll wear somebody’s socks or shirt if a player’s been hot. You’ll go to your locker and go ‘Where’s my damned undershirt?’ And guys are like: ‘Oh, Manny may have it.’ If somebody’s hot on the team and he’s not, he’ll wear their socks, their shirt, anything.” … Brian Fisher notes that Tyler Hansbrough’s two-tone mouthguard makes him look toothless. … Two good items here (coutesy of Scott Pickard; site registration may be required, but it’s free): Grady Little got a motocycle for giving up his uni number to Juan Pierre, and scroll down to the end to see how Andy La Roche is now Andy LaRoche (no space), necessitating a nameplate change. … Great note from Christopher McCarthy, regarding Mark Clayton’s sunglasses: “When Clayton was with the Packers, a reporter asked him why he wore sunglasses during night games. His response was, ‘The sun never sets on the cool.’ Classic. My brother and I still use this line and no one ever seems to know what the heck we’re talking about.” … Faaaaascinating note from Shawn Sweeney, media rep at Brooklyn’s own Long Island University: “One of our freshman guards, Connie James, broke her nose in a game late in the season and was fitted for a mask. In her first game back, she suffered a pretty bad eye injury (one of the few unprotected parts of her face) and left the game. For the next game, she had a new mask, this time with one of the eyes covered. It was quite a sight and appeared to have some condensation issues.” … Kyle Kendall came across this old photo and can’t figure out which sport these guys played. “My first thought is soccer, judging by the ball, and the fact that there are 16 players shown,” he writes. “The other weird thing is the medals that the players have tacked to their jerseys. Did they just win something?” … Good article here about Red Sox players’ superstitions, several of them uni-related, including Yaz never changing his socks, Kevin Youkilis using brand-new batting gloves if he’s in a slump, and so on (with thanks to Matt French). … Latest vote for (or, maybe, sign of) the Mets ditching the black: this week’s New Yorker cover. Note that the Mets script doesn’t even have the black drop shadow! Unfortunately, however, they got the belt wrong — should be blue. Oh, and the underbrims are wrong too, but I’m willing to chalk that one up to artistic license. … Remember that cool Kent Tekulve T-shirt that I linked to in my sunglasses column last week? Turns out the guy who makes them — a gent named Brian Corrigan — is a neighbor of mine, and yesterday he got in touch and stopped by Uni Watch HQ. I’m now the proud owner of my very own Tekulve tee, and Brian has lots of other cool stuff, too — check it out. … Carl Crawford had to wear a No. 98 jersey the other day (details at the bottom of this page). … Speaking of jersey snafus, here’s one reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Miguel Tejada was wearing one of last year’s BP jerseys on Tuesday. … I thought this looked OK, but this looks even better. … Two disclaimers about the following video (brought to my attention by Uni Watch Antarctic waterfowl naturalist Eric Bennett): (1) It’s not really uni-related (although it is hosted by a guy in a Red Sox jersey), and (2) some of the language is NSFW. That said, it’s the funniest damn thing I’ve seen in weeks — enjoy.
The Croix de Candlestick pins were Roger Craig’s idea. The players were complaining about the cold and the ballpark in general. He wanted to turn it into a positive by having the players focus on how much worse the conditions were for the visiting team who were never used to those conditions.
The idea then became a promotion to get fans to stay until the end of the game. I live in NY but a lifelong Giant fan (they will come back some day) and the one game I went to that year I was disappointed because the game was tied in the bottom of the ninth and I was hoping for extra innings. The Giants scored a run, won the game and I never got the pin.
It gets darn cold on the SF Bay after the sun sets in the summertime. I remember going to the East Bay shoreline to catch the SF fireworks on July 4 with my roommate. We (he from Buffalo and I from Milwaukee) wore sweatshirts and were surprised by the cold, while the natives were prepared and wrapped themselves up in sleeping bags (a little overboard, perhaps). And this was not a particularly cold day as I recall. I guess the winds by Candlestick Point made that ballpark exceptionally frigid. Pac Bell isn’t as bad?
Re: shades in the NFL…didn’t Chuck Muncie wear them when he played for the Saints? Seems like I had a card of his showing him wearing sunglasses.
[quote comment=”64120″]Re: shades in the NFL…didn’t Chuck Muncie wear them when he played for the Saints? Seems like I had a card of his showing him wearing sunglasses.[/quote]
Maybe you’re thinking of link? Muncie wore link, but not SUNglasses.
Regarding Kyle Kendall’s photographand subsequent confusion: I would guess it’s link, based on the number of players (Gaelic is played with 15 per side, apparent location (Chicago), and the harp on one of the player’s jerseys.
Could it also be rugby, or has rugby always used an ovoid ball?
could be football or rugby before the ball “morphed” into the current ovoid style. BITD, the balls for both sports closely mirrored the ball of the sport they derived from: soccer. The College Football HOF has a good display on the history of the ball…
Here is a link to a discussion in an Alabama Crimson Tide forum discussing possible changes to Bama’s football uniform, a horrible thought, but I thought some of the comments were quite humorous because some of the people obviously don’t Get Itâ„¢.
David David David …
Fuckin Fuckin Fuckin …
Ortiz Ortiz Ortiz …
that video was funny as hell.
Paul is that your actual address on the mailing label on that New Yorker image? Might want to hid that.
[quote comment=”64133″]Paul is that your actual address on the mailing label on that New Yorker image? Might want to hid that.[/quote]
I’ve never understood this obsession with “hiding” mailing addresses. Anyone can find my address (and probably yours) in, like, 10 seconds on the web. Also, I’ve printed my address within the blog many times. Doesn’t bother me.
Rugby ball has always been ovaloid. It used to have laces, but those have disappeared. I’d vote for Gaelic football as well.
That video is absolutely brilliant. Thats why YouTube was created. I think you should run it every week! Thank you Paul.
p.s. My guess on the picture of what looks like some sort of rugby or football team is that the pins they’re wearing were maybe some sort of trophy or championship pin.
If it is Gaelic football, I’m not so embarrassed about my confusion. I can’t say that I’ve ever heard of it. I have watched a bit of Australian Rules football, but it’s been years.
Anyone have any idea of the timing of the photo?
[quote comment=”64135″][quote comment=”64133″]Paul is that your actual address on the mailing label on that New Yorker image? Might want to hid that.[/quote]
I’ve never understood this obsession with “hiding” mailing addresses. Anyone can find my address (and probably yours) in, like, 10 seconds on the web. Also, I’ve printed my address within the blog many times. Doesn’t bother me.[/quote]
Well put. There are investigators who can snag your, SS#, bank account numbers and current balances with a little effort. People having knowledge of one’s address should be least of people’s concerns.
[quote comment=”64135″][quote comment=”64133″]Paul is that your actual address on the mailing label on that New Yorker image? Might want to hid that.[/quote]
I’ve never understood this obsession with “hiding” mailing addresses. Anyone can find my address (and probably yours) in, like, 10 seconds on the web. Also, I’ve printed my address within the blog many times. Doesn’t bother me.[/quote]
People do similar things with their licsence plates on car websites. This I never understood, I mean it is visible to anyone walking past your car on the street, why hide it just because you are posting a picture on the net?
Forget about Manny being Manny, what about Manny being a jerk? I’d be so ticked if some guy on my team took my shirt, socks, etc. without asking.
please pardon my poor spelling, too much going on right now.
Brian has lots of other cool stuff, too — check it out.
Yes, that Figure 4 leglock shirt may need to be purchased today!
I really do like that new pinstriped jersey that the US is wearing, but it definitely looks a lot better with white shorts.
HA! Love that “toothless” mouthguard!
Hard to tell from the two pictures (they almost look lik they were Photoshopped on), and maybe it’s just my imagination, but that pin looks like the yellow Star of David that the Nazis forced Jews to wear.
A couple things about the Croix de Candlestick (and I have quite a few in a box somewhere)…
-When the promotion began, you actually had to stay until the end of the extra innings night game to get the pin. They handed it to you on the way out. As time went by, they abandoned that practice and made them harder to get. You had to take your ticket stub to a Guants Dugout store to redeem it for a pin. This also meant that you didn’t have to stay all the way to end of the game to get the pin, which totally defeats the purpose.
-At the Giants last home night game at the ‘Stick in ’99, they gave out a commemorative Croix which was much bigger. Again, mine is in a box somewhere.
Matt B–
The weather difference between the ‘Stick and PacBell* is night and day. At the ‘Stick the wind and fog would move in about 4PM and you’d have to plan ahead for a day game (shorts and a parka). Night games in July were just brutal…but I loved every minute of it. I miss the ‘Stick!
*Not sure what they’re calling it this week.
As for the video … am I the only bothered by the Red Sox logo being a mirror image in the background?
On a barely related (other than segwaying to another classic “lovable loser” team): Paul – Do you know if the Cubs are going nameless at home this year, or going back to names on Uni’s for the 2007 regular season? It appears from the photos I’ve seen they’ve been with name in Spring Training (when wearing pinstripe tops, anyway).
I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.
In that mystery photo the symbol on the one dude’s shirt immediately struck me as an link
Could be anything though.
[quote comment=”64170″]In that mystery photo the symbol on the one dude’s shirt immediately struck me as an link
Could be anything though.[/quote]
It’s a soccer team. That dude on the bottom row, 4th from the left … Shep Messing. The dude in the back, with the straw hat … Steve Zungul. He didn’t suit up.
[quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
Actually, it’s because baseball didn’t allow a group of investors – including an relative of Mike Piazza if memory serves – purchase the team and move them to the Tropicana Dome (or whatever it’s called).
They sued.
I don’t have the case with me, as it’s in my sports law textbook. If someone reminds me to look it up tonight, I will!
[quote comment=”64159″]A couple things about the Croix de Candlestick (and I have quite a few in a box somewhere)…
-When the promotion began, you actually had to stay until the end of the extra innings night game to get the pin. They handed it to you on the way out. As time went by, they abandoned that practice and made them harder to get. You had to take your ticket stub to a Guants Dugout store to redeem it for a pin. This also meant that you didn’t have to stay all the way to end of the game to get the pin, which totally defeats the purpose.
-At the Giants last home night game at the ‘Stick in ’99, they gave out a commemorative Croix which was much bigger. Again, mine is in a box somewhere.[/quote]
Good info (ditto for comment #1). But HOW DID THE PLAYERS START WEARING THEM?
The Latin inscription on the Croix de Candlestick pin reads veni vidi vixi – I came I saw I lived (a play on Caesar’s veni vidi vici – I came I saw I conquered).
I’ve been trying to figure out why link looked so familiar…and then I found link
[quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
You’re forgetting Mike Ivie and Ed Halicki. I agree. They sucked ass, and they’re 0-49 in the championship dept. since moving from NY.
So what’s your point?
[quote comment=”64174″][quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
Actually, it’s because baseball didn’t allow a group of investors – including an relative of Mike Piazza if memory serves – purchase the team and move them to the Tropicana Dome (or whatever it’s called).
They sued.
I don’t have the case with me, as it’s in my sports law textbook. If someone reminds me to look it up tonight, I will![/quote]
You’re thinking of ’92. I went to the “last” game. My theory was that it was a ploy to spark more interest and passion for the franchise.
However, in the 80’s, local rumblings were that owner, Lurie was looking to pull a Rachel Phelps and relocate to Florida.
I found a terible PDF of the decision in the case. It WAS Piazza’s dad – Vince – who was one of the investors.
link
Basically, the investors sued successfully for antitrust violations because baseball did not allow those who were able to participate in the market (the purchase of a baseball team being the market) to freely purchase a baseball team. (MLB shut these guys out of the bidding, though I forget why and didn’t want to read the whole case now.)
[quote comment=”64181″]You’re thinking of ’92. I went to the “last” game. My theory was that it was a ploy to spark more interest and passion for the franchise.
However, in the 80’s, local rumblings were that owner, Lurie was looking to pull a Rachel Phelps and relocate to Florida.[/quote]
I sit corrected, then!
The New Yorker also missed the blue piping on the pants.
link
The New Yorker is probably showing last year’s Yankees jersey since it doesn’t have the link
[quote comment=”64175″][quote comment=”64159″]A couple things about the Croix de Candlestick (and I have quite a few in a box somewhere)…
-When the promotion began, you actually had to stay until the end of the extra innings night game to get the pin. They handed it to you on the way out. As time went by, they abandoned that practice and made them harder to get. You had to take your ticket stub to a Guants Dugout store to redeem it for a pin. This also meant that you didn’t have to stay all the way to end of the game to get the pin, which totally defeats the purpose.
-At the Giants last home night game at the ‘Stick in ’99, they gave out a commemorative Croix which was much bigger. Again, mine is in a box somewhere.[/quote]
Good info (ditto for comment #1). But HOW DID THE PLAYERS START WEARING THEM?[/quote]
I like to think it was a way for the players to salute the fans for putting up with their horrendous play and tolerating the near arctic conditions. Or maybe it was a way for players to tell management that ‘This place Sucks!’ I really have no idea, but I though it was cool.
BTW, pitcher Bill Laskey used to wear one on the back of his cap, wear the MLB logo would go in the future.
[quote comment=”64165″]As for the video … am I the only bothered by the Red Sox logo being a mirror image in the background?
On a barely related (other than segwaying to another classic “lovable loser” team): Paul – Do you know if the Cubs are going nameless at home this year, or going back to names on Uni’s for the 2007 regular season? It appears from the photos I’ve seen they’ve been with name in Spring Training (when wearing pinstripe tops, anyway).[/quote]
They are going with the names on the back
[quote comment=”64179″][quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
You’re forgetting Mike Ivie and Ed Halicki. I agree. They sucked ass, and they’re 0-49 in the championship dept. since moving from NY.
So what’s your point?[/quote]
Hey now, don’t for get Mike Krukow, still annoying the crap out of opposing fans for the last several years with his homer ways…
[quote comment=”64209″][quote comment=”64179″][quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
You’re forgetting Mike Ivie and Ed Halicki. I agree. They sucked ass, and they’re 0-49 in the championship dept. since moving from NY.
So what’s your point?[/quote]
Hey now, don’t for get Mike Krukow, still annoying the crap out of opposing fans for the last several years with his homer ways…[/quote]
ok it should be forget…how did I mess that up?
a. on that new yorker cover… is that a characature (sp) of juan pierre or jose reyes dressed in the yankee pin stripes…
b. back to yesterdays discussion on the espn commercial. here is an auction you boys will dig.
the pics are great!
oh, and its a tat-shirt…
link
[quote comment=”64127″]Regarding Kyle Kendall’s photographand subsequent confusion: I would guess it’s link, based on the number of players (Gaelic is played with 15 per side, apparent location (Chicago), and the harp on one of the player’s jerseys.
Could it also be rugby, or has rugby always used an ovoid ball?[/quote]
The only thing that would make me think it is not Gaelic Football is that I don’t recall hearing/reading/seeing the GAA allowing anything but an all white ball. Could be wrong but in the time I’ve been officiating Hurling/Gaelic Football for the St.Louis Hurling Club, (www.stlhurling.com) I have never seen a tri or bi coloured ball in the history books.
On another note, some of the best and most colourful jersey’s are in Hurling and Gaelic Football.
Slainte’
Mike
[quote comment=”64173″][quote comment=”64170″]In that mystery photo the symbol on the one dude’s shirt immediately struck me as an link
Could be anything though.[/quote]
It’s a soccer team. That dude on the bottom row, 4th from the left … Shep Messing. The dude in the back, with the straw hat … Steve Zungul. He didn’t suit up.[/quote]
Funny. But I’m guessing this is a little older than the mid 70’s.
In regards to the US soccer jerseys, I was at the game last night and they do look 100 times better with the white shorts. Game woulda been a lot better if the damn dirty Guatemalens weren’t such girls.
[quote comment=”64131″]Here is a link to a discussion in an Alabama Crimson Tide forum discussing possible changes to Bama’s football uniform, a horrible thought, but I thought some of the comments were quite humorous because some of the people obviously don’t Get Itâ„¢.[/quote]
Wow, these guys are CLUELESS!!!
I’m a HUGE LSU fan and hate every other SEC team with a passion (expecially Bama now), but they have one of the best unis in all of football – not just college or just the SEC, but ALL of football. WHY would you want to change that?!
And as for the black shoes looking more “intimidating” than white shoes? WTF?! I must be missing something here.
And finally, on the LSU discussion, it has NOTHING to do with Nick Saban, Gerry DiNardo or “visibility” as was rumored on the board…it has EVERTYHING to do with tradition. LSU wore white at home for YEARS and YEARS. Then the NCAA or SEC (I forget which one) made a rule forcing all teams to wear dark jerseys at home and white on the road. By the time DiNardo came in, the rule was relaxed and the home team had to ask permission from the visiting team to wear home whites.
LSU’s tradition now is to wear white jerseys for the first home game of every season and all SEC games. Any non-conference game (day or night), the team wears purple jerseys. The team DID wear white jerseys at home against Arizona despite it being the 2nd home game.
I ordered a link as well. I watched him with the link when I was a kid and thought he was link.
I took in my first game at (then) link a couple years ago, and it’s a link link link. And it does get crazy cold there at night, so Candlestick must have been worse.
They have vendors in the stands there with giant kegs of coffee strapped to their backs, and those guys were in high demand the night I was there. I wish I could find a photo of a PacBell/SBC/AT&T Park coffee vendor. Anyone have one?
[quote comment=”64221″][quote comment=”64127″]Regarding Kyle Kendall’s photographand subsequent confusion: I would guess it’s link, based on the number of players (Gaelic is played with 15 per side, apparent location (Chicago), and the harp on one of the player’s jerseys.
Could it also be rugby, or has rugby always used an ovoid ball?[/quote]
The only thing that would make me think it is not Gaelic Football is that I don’t recall hearing/reading/seeing the GAA allowing anything but an all white ball. Could be wrong but in the time I’ve been officiating Hurling/Gaelic Football for the St.Louis Hurling Club, (www.stlhurling.com) I have never seen a tri or bi coloured ball in the history books.
On another note, some of the best and most colourful jersey’s are in Hurling and Gaelic Football.
Slainte’
Mike[/quote]
hurling… what a freakin’ amazing sport to watch…
part field hockey/part rugby/part baseball and ALL dangerous…
when i was in college, hurling was shown regularly on one of the cable sports stations provided by my cable company (similar to a struggling espn showing australian rules football)
my roommates and i became huge supporters of the offaly team.
For those that liked the video, I did a little Googling, the guys got a whole video blog site that’s hilarious. I watched a couple older episodes, they are great.
link
Note: DEFINITELY NSFW!
Paul..I have the answer for how the players started wearing the Croix..
Its on an old VHS tape I have to go get out of the garage.
Give me 15 minutes..
Ed
[quote comment=”64222″][quote comment=”64173″][quote comment=”64170″]In that mystery photo the symbol on the one dude’s shirt immediately struck me as an link
Could be anything though.[/quote]
It’s a soccer team. That dude on the bottom row, 4th from the left … Shep Messing. The dude in the back, with the straw hat … Steve Zungul. He didn’t suit up.[/quote]
Funny. But I’m guessing this is a little older than the mid 70’s.[/quote]
shep messing actually played for a team called the “finn harps” perhaps loosley based on the above picture. however the picture pre dates the origin of the team by probably a half century,
that cosmos documentary, “once in a lifetime”, is absolutely incredible…
it rivals “hoop dreams” as one of my favorites… imagine your intramural softball team as a freshman becoming the yankees by your senior year…
absolutely amazing.
i think i’ll be investing in a teke shirt as well…
he inspired me to start chewing tobacco, both dip and pouch… but for got sakes teke, eat a steak or something!
I was on the website for my school’s dining halls earlier and noticed an image the school had photoshopped to promote a theme dinner for opening day. At first glance, I thought my school was making a statement about baseball and steroids because the things coming out of the baseball at first resembled syringes. They’re really bats, but a quick first look made them seem other wise.
take a look
Before the last game at the Stick, Fox Sports Bay Area ran a special on the history of the Giants in Candlestick park. There is a segment about “The Croix†here is a transcript from the segment.
Voice over: The fans did not always come to stick in great numbers. But armed with fortitude and optimism….and warm clothing; the freezing faithful wooed themselves into the ballpark’s legend. Their loyalty was beyond question…unlike their sanity.”
Fans are shown wearing winter coats in the bleachers of the stick. One man is shirtless
we hear over this shot:
Announcer Jon Miller: “a little WIND blowing into the ballpark tonightâ€Â
Mike Krukow: “That looks like the lift line at Lake Tahoeâ€Â
Dave Dravecky on screen: “The fog would just creep in, those fingers would just creep in over and just settle down in onto the ball park and you wonder ‘what in the world is going on here and why in the world are these people still sticking this thing out? Why are they HERE?’â€Â
An old Giants commercial from 1983 promoting the Croix is shown:
“Valley Forge, Bastold (sp?), Candlestick Parkâ€Â
Man coming out of the tunnel “My legs, I can’t feel my legsâ€Â
A well bundled usher is shown unveiling a “Croix†as if it were in a box meant for an engagement ring.
Giants Executive Larry Baer: “The whole thing about the weather, I think at one point we just decided to exaggerate it to a point. I don’t think it made it any warmer out here but I think it made people feel a little better about it….
Fan’s would come into the (Giants) Dugout stores and say ‘You know I see that Croix de Candlestick, I’ll give you a buck, I’ll give you five bucks for it… NO. You have to EARN the seven cent button.’ And so the players bought into the Croix de Candlestick to the point where they were wearing them on their hats.â€Â
Mike Krukow on Screen: “It was a great crowd to play in front of. And they didn’t leave early; they didn’t get there in the 3rd and leave in the 7th like our neighbors down south do. They hung… and I thought the reward with the Croix de Candlestick was absolutely hysterical…and, and applicable.”
Am I the only one that thinks Mexico’s new link looks awkward and asymmetrical? Compare it to link.
And yes, the new USA Jersey looks A LOT better in link.
Pleas post part 2 of the red sox preview. Funny stuff!
[quote comment=”64152″]Hard to tell from the two pictures (they almost look lik they were Photoshopped on), and maybe it’s just my imagination, but that pin looks like the yellow Star of David that the Nazis forced Jews to wear.[/quote]
What the hell are you talking about??
Bastold (sp?)
Do you mean Bastgone? Cause that’s where they fought the Battle of the Bulge.
[quote comment=”64221″]
…in the time I’ve been officiating Hurling/Gaelic Football for the St.Louis Hurling Club, (www.stlhurling.com)…
Slainte’
Mike[/quote]
Wait… STL Hurling?! Mike… Hill? I played for Llywelyn’s in the spring of last year before moving to Chicago, my name’s Adam Hale. Say hi to Lapke, Raz, and Bender for me!
[quote comment=”64181″][quote comment=”64174″][quote comment=”64166″]I always thought the pin was a reward for watching the crappiest team in California. The Giants were a lackluster bunch of dunderheads back then.
Hello Johnny LeMaster and Gary Lavelle.
Whoop dee doo.
Greg Minton was the biggest star they had. If it wasn’t for Will Clark, that team woulda bolted to Tampa Bay in ’86.
Eeeesh.
Go A’s.[/quote]
Actually, it’s because baseball didn’t allow a group of investors – including an relative of Mike Piazza if memory serves – purchase the team and move them to the Tropicana Dome (or whatever it’s called).
They sued.
I don’t have the case with me, as it’s in my sports law textbook. If someone reminds me to look it up tonight, I will![/quote]
You’re thinking of ’92. I went to the “last” game. My theory was that it was a ploy to spark more interest and passion for the franchise.
However, in the 80’s, local rumblings were that owner, Lurie was looking to pull a Rachel Phelps and relocate to Florida.[/quote]
The Giants’ potential carpetbagging days go further back than the almost move to Tampa.
In 1975, the Giants almost ended up in Toronto.
The National League approved the sale of the San Francisco Giants by Horace Stoneham to a Toronto group, who would move the team to Toronto for the 1976 season. A new mayor in San Francisco sought and won an injunction preventing the team from leaving California to buy time to find a new ownership group that would buy the team and keep it in SF.
The next year, the Toronto group was awarded an AL expansion franchise that would be the Blue Jays. Since then, the Jays have won two World Series…and the Giants? Still waiting. Would have been nice to have a Toronto-Montreal rivalry in the NL though.
By the way, Paul “Fitzy” Fitzsimmons is really Nick Stevens, who was one of the finalists on ESPN’s Dream Job, and I believe does some radio work here in the NYC area.
Hmmmm, gotta say that I like the all-blue look for the US soccer team better than the blue-white-blue, except I don’t like the huge numbers on the left leg of the blue shorts.
The Japanese baseball book that Paul mentioned yesterday is what I got myself for Christmas, and I saw it mentioned on this site before that, so it’s all one neverending loop.
I rememebr being a kid and it was our vacation for the summer when my parents would take my sister and I to San Francisco on a Saturday morning to catch the Saturday night game followed by the Sunday day game before returning home. We would be bundled up in jackets and blankets in the family pavilion section near the right field foul pole. It never mattered what the temperature, score or anything was in those days. It was always so magical to me travelling for hours so we could watch our beloved Giants. Now that I live in San Francisco I am down right spoiled to go to games at beautiful AT&T Park. Any true Giant fan will tell you though, if you want to experience how games were back at the ‘stick, all you have to do is buy a bleacher ticket, thats where all the originals are. For those who wish to one time sit there, I can guarantee great stories from the past, drunken chants for the Giants or against anyone from the other team, and I can definitely guarantee getting hit by some kind of object if you’re an opposing fan who stands up and cheers. Long live the stick
I guess the first year they gave the Croix de Candlestick buttons out, the players were able to get ahold of them too, since they handed them out at the park. Toward the end of the summer (Can’t remember the year) some of the players had a button for each extra innings night game they’d played and wore them all on their caps. Maybe eight or nine of ’em at once.
I have a few of them too.
[quote comment=”64264″]By the way, Paul “Fitzy” Fitzsimmons is really Nick Stevens, who was one of the finalists on ESPN’s Dream Job, and I believe does some radio work here in the NYC area.[/quote]
i thought that guy looked a little familiar. the townienews website is hilarious. check out the clip of his stand up act on the site.
Am I the only one that thinks Mexico’s new jersey looks awkward and asymmetrical? Compare it to Germany’s jersey.
And yes, the new USA Jersey looks A LOT better in Blue-White-Blue.
Score another one for adidas.
I personally like the white shorts with the blue pinstripe jersey.
Courtesy of SI today: how cheerleaders ply their trade link.
I don’t have a picture, and I don’t know if Hansbrough realizes this, but the first Tar Heel to wear a “toothless” mouthguard was Jerry Stackhouse. The UNC Dental School made the Carolina blue-and-white tooth protector especially for him.
[quote comment=”64247″]Am I the only one that thinks Mexico’s new link looks awkward and asymmetrical? Compare it to link.
And yes, the new USA Jersey looks A LOT better in link.[/quote]
That’s a trick of the eye with the new Mexican jersey. It’s actually quite symmentrical. The undershirt may be throwing you off.
link a catalog look at it.
[quote comment=”64268″]Hmmmm, gotta say that I like the all-blue look for the US soccer team better than the blue-white-blue, except I don’t like the huge numbers on the left leg of the blue shorts.
The Japanese baseball book that Paul mentioned yesterday is what I got myself for Christmas, and I saw it mentioned on this site before that, so it’s all one neverending loop.[/quote]
disagree – I like the blue-white-blue. Mixing it up looks better than monochrome – like with the NFL uniforms.
On the Teke shirt – they’d sell a million in Pittsburgh, and I’ve never seen one there. But they’re wrong – Teke didn’t wear hornrims, they were these huge aviator-style glasses that were kinda sorta in fashion in those days. Still, what a great thing to see the great Teke (who also is an excellent guy) immortalized. Always cool, indeed. And unhittable.
I thought Paul would like this hammer throw uni.
Go USA
[quote comment=”64245″]Before the last game at the Stick, Fox Sports Bay Area ran a special on the history of the Giants in Candlestick park. There is a segment about “The Croix†here is a transcript from the segment.
Voice over: The fans did not always come to stick in great numbers. But armed with fortitude and optimism….and warm clothing; the freezing faithful wooed themselves into the ballpark’s legend. Their loyalty was beyond question…unlike their sanity.”
Fans are shown wearing winter coats in the bleachers of the stick. One man is shirtless
we hear over this shot:
Announcer Jon Miller: “a little WIND blowing into the ballpark tonightâ€Â
Mike Krukow: “That looks like the lift line at Lake Tahoeâ€Â
Dave Dravecky on screen: “The fog would just creep in, those fingers would just creep in over and just settle down in onto the ball park and you wonder ‘what in the world is going on here and why in the world are these people still sticking this thing out? Why are they HERE?’â€Â
An old Giants commercial from 1983 promoting the Croix is shown:
“Valley Forge, Bastold (sp?),
Candlestick Parkâ€Â
Man coming out of the tunnel “My legs, I can’t feel my legsâ€Â
A well bundled usher is shown unveiling a “Croix†as if it were in a box meant for an engagement ring.
Giants Executive Larry Baer: “The whole thing about the weather, I think at one point we just decided to exaggerate it to a point. I don’t think it made it any warmer out here but I think it made people feel a little better about it….
Fan’s would come into the (Giants) Dugout stores and say ‘You know I see that Croix de Candlestick, I’ll give you a buck, I’ll give you five bucks for it… NO. You have to EARN the seven cent button.’ And so the players bought into the Croix de Candlestick to the point where they were wearing them on their hats.â€Â
Mike Krukow on Screen: “It was a great crowd to play in front of. And they didn’t leave early; they didn’t get there in the 3rd and leave in the 7th like our neighbors down south do. They hung… and I thought the reward with the Croix de Candlestick was absolutely hysterical…and, and applicable.”[/quote]
Awesome work, Ed — many thanks!
I’d vote for a gaelic football team. Compare the photo at the bottom of link page.
As an aside: anyone got any photos of the 1947 GAA football finals that were played at the Polo Grounds by any chance?
[quote comment=”64117″]The Croix de Candlestick pins were Roger Craig’s idea. The players were complaining about the cold and the ballpark in general. He wanted to turn it into a positive by having the players focus on how much worse the conditions were for the visiting team who were never used to those conditions.
The idea then became a promotion to get fans to stay until the end of the game. I live in NY but a lifelong Giant fan (they will come back some day) and the one game I went to that year I was disappointed because the game was tied in the bottom of the ninth and I was hoping for extra innings. The Giants scored a run, won the game and I never got the pin.[/quote]
You have it all wrong. It was not Roger Craig, the manager. He was not manager even at that time the promotion started. He became manager in 1986.
The linkpin (scroll down to 6th paragraph)idea came up from the Giants maketing firm. I believe Pat Gallagher was his name.
You got the pin or button when there was an extra inning night game at Candlestick Park. It’s a badge of honor that you stayed the whole game. I was a Giants usher during those days and I remember passing them out to fans leaving the game. You can also show your ticket stub at the ticket window or at Giants store.
I remember some of my baseball cards had players wearing them. Not sure why but I remember Mark Davis was one. I’ll see if there were others through my old baseball cards.
[quote comment=”64289″][quote comment=”64268″]Hmmmm, gotta say that I like the all-blue look for the US soccer team better than the blue-white-blue, except I don’t like the huge numbers on the left leg of the blue shorts.
The Japanese baseball book that Paul mentioned yesterday is what I got myself for Christmas, and I saw it mentioned on this site before that, so it’s all one neverending loop.[/quote]
disagree – I like the blue-white-blue. Mixing it up looks better than monochrome – like with the NFL uniforms.[/quote]
Richard, as you most likely know, I like the monochromatic look in the NFL (for the most part. See Seattle Seahawks for a biiiig thumbs down). I don’t expect anyone to agree with me, but I just had to throw it out there.
Mariel, I like the little syringe-filled baseball. So cute! I can’t believe someone didn’t spot that in the planning process. I was going to quote you first, but you forgot to close the link.
[quote comment=”64312″][quote comment=”64289″][quote comment=”64268″]Hmmmm, gotta say that I like the all-blue look for the US soccer team better than the blue-white-blue, except I don’t like the huge numbers on the left leg of the blue shorts.
The Japanese baseball book that Paul mentioned yesterday is what I got myself for Christmas, and I saw it mentioned on this site before that, so it’s all one neverending loop.[/quote]
disagree – I like the blue-white-blue. Mixing it up looks better than monochrome – like with the NFL uniforms.[/quote]
Richard, as you most likely know, I like the monochromatic look in the NFL (for the most part. See Seattle Seahawks for a biiiig thumbs down). I don’t expect anyone to agree with me, but I just had to throw it out there.
Mariel, I like the little syringe-filled baseball. So cute! I can’t believe someone didn’t spot that in the planning process. I was going to quote you first, but you forgot to close the link.[/quote]
Call me a flip flopper, but I dislike the monochrome look in football but I love it in soccer.
I don’t think it gets much better than the head to toe red of Liverpool: link
link
link
ok, so i had this nice little thing on nike using a template for quite some time now. here’s a look at the jerseys from the link. clearly nike was using a template, same with the total 90 jerseys they had a few years ago(the ones with the circle around the numbers on the front). so stop attacking adidas for using one. when you have colors like Mexico(adidas) or Portugal(nike) its gonna take a lot of work to make them look good together. besides, i like Argentina’s color combo with the adidas jersey.
link of the New Jersey Devils also wears a two-toned mouthguard.
2 things
1) As much as i hate to admit it, the US blue jerseys actually looked pretty god witht he white shorts, blue socks. I still dont think its an appropriate 3rd jersey for the US. We have blue, been there done that
2) The hammer thrower featured for his uniform hails from long island, birthplace of me. I’ve seen him a couple times at track meets (little sister still in HS, runs track) and he is unbelievable. No one comes close to him in meets. I’d be surprised if hes lost a hammer or shot put comp. in his HS career.
[quote comment=”64314″]
Call me a flip flopper, but I dislike the monochrome look in football but I love it in soccer.
I don’t think it gets much better than the head to toe red of Liverpool: link
link
link
Hey, Mr. Flip-Flopper, love the intense ketchup look! Now, if they only had red shoes….
I seem to remember Serge Zwikker, center for the Tarheels wore a two tone mouth guard like Hansborough’s during the 1996 NCAA tournament. I remember this because in the game where UNC was beat by Texas Tech, Darvin Hamm slammed home a rebound and shattered the backboard and Serge was just standing there with his mouth gaping open and his half white-half blue mouth piece was dangling.
Don’t have photographic proof of that, but here’s the Sports Illustrated cover showing the aftermath of Hamm’s slam: link
no pics, but this was posted on the Braves beat blog on ajc.com:
“Andruw [Jones] took batting practice wearing a jersey with “Dos Cinco†instead of his name above his No. 25”
[quote comment=”64321″][quote comment=”64314″]
Call me a flip flopper, but I dislike the monochrome look in football but I love it in soccer.
I don’t think it gets much better than the head to toe red of Liverpool: link
link
link
Hey, Mr. Flip-Flopper, love the intense ketchup look! Now, if they only had red shoes….[/quote]
Sometimes they do Minna. Mostly I just found examples of black cleats with a red tongue: link
But then I found this picture of Jermaine Pennant sporting the red cleats: link
[quote comment=”64225″][quote comment=”64131″]Here is a link to a discussion in an Alabama Crimson Tide forum discussing possible changes to Bama’s football uniform, a horrible thought, but I thought some of the comments were quite humorous because some of the people obviously don’t Get Itâ„¢.[/quote]
Wow, these guys are CLUELESS!!!
I’m a HUGE LSU fan and hate every other SEC team with a passion (expecially Bama now), but they have one of the best unis in all of football – not just college or just the SEC, but ALL of football. WHY would you want to change that?!
And as for the black shoes looking more “intimidating” than white shoes? WTF?! I must be missing something here.
And finally, on the LSU discussion, it has NOTHING to do with Nick Saban, Gerry DiNardo or “visibility” as was rumored on the board…it has EVERTYHING to do with tradition. LSU wore white at home for YEARS and YEARS. Then the NCAA or SEC (I forget which one) made a rule forcing all teams to wear dark jerseys at home and white on the road. By the time DiNardo came in, the rule was relaxed and the home team had to ask permission from the visiting team to wear home whites.
LSU’s tradition now is to wear white jerseys for the first home game of every season and all SEC games. Any non-conference game (day or night), the team wears purple jerseys. The team DID wear white jerseys at home against Arizona despite it being the 2nd home game.[/quote]
Bama hasn’t worn white shoes since 1988. In 89, Bill Curry went retro and had the team werar black. They went 10-1 and were ranked as high as #2 that year. Only loss – first game on the Plains, baby! 30-20. War Eagle.
Notice in the NCAA News this month that the Georgia State baseball team in Atlanta is wearing special uniforms styled after the ones the Braves wore when Hank Aaron set the home run record.
Sorry, but I don’t have a link to the photo. I saw it in the printed copy.
The unis are pretty neat — if you liked the Hank Aaron ones.
[quote comment=”64332″]Notice in the NCAA News this month that the Georgia State baseball team in Atlanta is wearing special uniforms styled after the ones the Braves wore when Hank Aaron set the home run record.
Sorry, but I don’t have a link to the photo. I saw it in the printed copy.
The unis are pretty neat — if you liked the Hank Aaron ones.[/quote]
Any pics of the all black uni’s from the team honoring the victims of the bus crash. sorry, notexactly related to this comment and i don’t even know their name. busy here today for once
One note for the McDonalds’ HS All American game last night: Can’t we just stop pretending, let uberlogo creep run amok, and dress half of them as The Hamburglar and the other half as Mayor McCheese?
I read somewhere that Candlestick was supposed to be heated by hot water pipes, within the concrete stands, but in an almost-Spinal Tap way, they were 0.5-foot in the concrete rather than 0.5-inches (or something like that), making them ineffective in heating. Can anyone confirm or deny this? (As always, if it’s been noted before, oops.)
I just wanted to toss this picture out there; just found it through a random picture skimmer: link. Check out the “Captain” sock and the glove in the background.
[quote comment=”64333″][quote comment=”64332″]Notice in the NCAA News this month that the Georgia State baseball team in Atlanta is wearing special uniforms styled after the ones the Braves wore when Hank Aaron set the home run record.
Sorry, but I don’t have a link to the photo. I saw it in the printed copy.
The unis are pretty neat — if you liked the Hank Aaron ones.[/quote]
Any pics of the all black uni’s from the team honoring the victims of the bus crash. sorry, notexactly related to this comment and i don’t even know their name. busy here today for once[/quote]Bluffton University will play their season opener tomorrow.
[quote comment=”64341″][quote comment=”64333″][quote comment=”64332″]Notice in the NCAA News this month that the Georgia State baseball team in Atlanta is wearing special uniforms styled after the ones the Braves wore when Hank Aaron set the home run record.
Sorry, but I don’t have a link to the photo. I saw it in the printed copy.
The unis are pretty neat — if you liked the Hank Aaron ones.[/quote]
Any pics of the all black uni’s from the team honoring the victims of the bus crash. sorry, notexactly related to this comment and i don’t even know their name. busy here today for once[/quote]Bluffton University will play their season opener tomorrow.[/quote]
Thanks, I feel like an insensitive schmuckhead.
Anyone posted the new Lehigh Valley link logo yet?? I haven’t seen anything on here since they unveiled it. Any thoughts? I’ think I’m indifferent on it.
[quote comment=”64275″][quote comment=”64264″]By the way, Paul “Fitzy” Fitzsimmons is really Nick Stevens, who was one of the finalists on ESPN’s Dream Job, and I believe does some radio work here in the NYC area.[/quote]
i thought that guy looked a little familiar. the townienews website is hilarious. check out the clip of his stand up act on the site.[/quote]
I was gonna say that too. I recognized him right away.
Also on another note the shoes the mets player is wearing in the New Yorker Cover seem to be Nike Shox cleats without he logos.
RE: the new yorker cover. Shouldn’t the shoes match the belt? Therefore the shoes are also wrong? Bottom line it’s plain silly to dissect a non-sports magazine cover, but I love seeing the Mets sans black.
[quote comment=”64339″]One note for the McDonalds’ HS All American game last night: Can’t we just stop pretending, let uberlogo creep run amok, and dress half of them as The Hamburglar and the other half as Mayor McCheese?
I read somewhere that Candlestick was supposed to be heated by hot water pipes, within the concrete stands, but in an almost-Spinal Tap way, they were 0.5-foot in the concrete rather than 0.5-inches (or something like that), making them ineffective in heating. Can anyone confirm or deny this? (As always, if it’s been noted before, oops.)[/quote]
I knew that they were going to install radiant heat lamps above the upper deck. But that never came into fruition. They also talked about putting a dome over Candlestick Park. They figured that the cost to put a dome would cost as much as building a brand new park, so that too never happened.
Although AT&T Park is a 200 times better than Candlestick, it would always have a special place in my heart. It’s where I grew up and still have fond memories. Cold July nights, chain Link fence and warning track dirt in my eyes.
[quote comment=”64284″][quote comment=”64247″]Am I the only one that thinks Mexico’s new link looks awkward and asymmetrical? Compare it to link.
And yes, the new USA Jersey looks A LOT better in link.[/quote]
That’s a trick of the eye with the new Mexican jersey. It’s actually quite symmentrical. The undershirt may be throwing you off.
link a catalog look at it.[/quote]
I was meaning the fact that the number is the in middle, along with the adidas logo. The Mexican sheild is on the left, with nothing on the right.
1) Candlestick needs to be blown up- the Niners need a new home.
2) That video is priceless- is this guy Dennis Leary’s cousin?
3) Please post part #2.
PS- speaking of the SAWX…we cannot forget this gem.
link
Ah, he’s got way more ammo where that came from.
link
Ben Wallace is wearing the Starbury II tonight against Detroit.
acie law iv wearing a BLACK texas a&m jersey at the college 3 point shooting contest
i think that’s why he lost
[quote comment=”64354″]RE: the new yorker cover. Shouldn’t the shoes match the belt?[/quote]
Whether or not they SHOULD, the Mets’ official uni specs specify a blue belt (and socks, and blue unersleeves) whenever the blue cap is worn.
[quote comment=”64316″]link of the New Jersey Devils also wears a two-toned mouthguard.[/quote]
Ah, but does he have the haÄÂek in “Eliáš” on his jersey? Show us a picture of his back!
And I also like the pinstriped US soccer jersey with the white shorts. Those would look great with only numbers on the backs, and no names. (As do the Cubs jerseys — get those ugly names off of there!)
Anybody watch the college slam dunk contest on ESPN? The guy Brent Petway, from the U. of Michigan that had the Michigan football helmet shaved into his head a few months back now has the Air Jordan logo in the back of his head now. He’s also #23. Any pics??
Watching The College Slam Dunk competition, I noticed that Rutgers’ Adrian Hill wears a ton of wristbands and other accessories.
Another weird note is that at the Competition, Hill was wearing Adidas wristbands and headbands, dispite Rutgers being sponsored by Nike.
No pictures of the later but one of him decked out in Nike. Way too many swooshes.
[quote comment=”64355″][quote comment=”64339″]One note for the McDonalds’ HS All American game last night: Can’t we just stop pretending, let uberlogo creep run amok, and dress half of them as The Hamburglar and the other half as Mayor McCheese?
I read somewhere that Candlestick was supposed to be heated by hot water pipes, within the concrete stands, but in an almost-Spinal Tap way, they were 0.5-foot in the concrete rather than 0.5-inches (or something like that), making them ineffective in heating. Can anyone confirm or deny this? (As always, if it’s been noted before, oops.)[/quote]
I knew that they were going to install radiant heat lamps above the upper deck. But that never came into fruition. They also talked about putting a dome over Candlestick Park. They figured that the cost to put a dome would cost as much as building a brand new park, so that too never happened.
Although AT&T Park is a 200 times better than Candlestick, it would always have a special place in my heart. It’s where I grew up and still have fond memories. Cold July nights, chain Link fence and warning track dirt in my eyes.[/quote]
I hear you, Ron. It was impossible to drink a beer at the ‘Stick without warning track dirt and peanut shell pieces in it.
Maybe someday we can have a fond discussion of the link
oops here is adrian hill with the logo creap
[quote comment=”64221″]
On another note, some of the best and most colourful jersey’s are in Hurling and Gaelic Football.
Slainte’
Mike[/quote]
They’re also of horrendous quality. I’d never buy an O’Neill’s shirt!
[quote comment=”64380″]Watching The College Slam Dunk competition, I noticed that Rutgers’ Adrian Hill wears a ton of wristbands and other accessories.
Another weird note is that at the Competition, Hill was wearing Adidas wristbands and headbands, dispite Rutgers being sponsored by Nike.
No pictures of the later but one of him decked out in Nike. Way too many swooshes.
[/quote]
Rutgers is an Adidas school (this was their first season with Adidas).
I just saw the MOST amazing thing during the America’s Game showing the 1997 Broncos. The Broncos hosted the Jaguars in the Wild Card playoff game, a rematch from the previous year’s playoffs, a game that was also in Denver. The 1997 Jaguars were the first Jags team to wear the current style numerals on their jerseys, and their away jerseys had ugly black side panels.
Anyway, they show a clip of the Jags blocking a punt for a TD, making the score 21-17, Denver, then Alec Baldwin says “the Jaguars turned their attention to [Elway]”, followed by a cut to three Jaguars on the sidelines. One of the Jags says “I HATE John Elway, man”, BUT he is CLEARLY wearing the older uniform with block numbers and no side paneling. They cut a clip from the ’96 game into the ’97 highlights. So sad.
[quote comment=”64315″]ok, so i had this nice little thing on nike using a template for quite some time now. here’s a look at the jerseys from the link. clearly nike was using a template, same with the total 90 jerseys they had a few years ago(the ones with the circle around the numbers on the front). so stop attacking adidas for using one. when you have colors like Mexico(adidas) or Portugal(nike) its gonna take a lot of work to make them look good together. besides, i like Argentina’s color combo with the adidas jersey.[/quote]
We applaud Nike’s move away from templates, and knock the others for still using them. It’s perfectly fair.
as per Red Sox Nation ugh..
[quote comment=”64328″][quote comment=”64321″][quote comment=”64314″]
Call me a flip flopper, but I dislike the monochrome look in football but I love it in soccer.
I don’t think it gets much better than the head to toe red of Liverpool: link
link
link
Hey, Mr. Flip-Flopper, love the intense ketchup look! Now, if they only had red shoes….[/quote]
Sometimes they do Minna. Mostly I just found examples of black cleats with a red tongue: link
But then I found this picture of Jermaine Pennant sporting the red cleats: link
Huh. Matthew, I was being flippant, but I actually like the red cleats. Thanks for the visuals.
[quote comment=”64312″][quote comment=”64289″][quote comment=”64268″]Hmmmm, gotta say that I like the all-blue look for the US soccer team better than the blue-white-blue, except I don’t like the huge numbers on the left leg of the blue shorts.
The Japanese baseball book that Paul mentioned yesterday is what I got myself for Christmas, and I saw it mentioned on this site before that, so it’s all one neverending loop.[/quote]
disagree – I like the blue-white-blue. Mixing it up looks better than monochrome – like with the NFL uniforms.[/quote]
Richard, as you most likely know, I like the monochromatic look in the NFL (for the most part. See Seattle Seahawks for a biiiig thumbs down). I don’t expect anyone to agree with me, but I just had to throw it out there.
Mariel, I like the little syringe-filled baseball. So cute! I can’t believe someone didn’t spot that in the planning process. I was going to quote you first, but you forgot to close the link.[/quote]
sometimes i like it, but mostly I dislike it. And the monochrome kits don’t work if the colors don’t match.