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Maybe Romo Should’ve Worn One Too

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If you’ve ever flown into or out of Dallas/Ft. Worth, you’ve probably experienced that oh-so-wonderful moment when the pilot informs you that you can see Texas Stadium if you look out the window. “As you can see, it has a hole in the roof,” the pilot will say. “That’s so God can watch his favorite football team, the Dallas Cowboys.”

The Cowboys have always played the God card, from Tom Landry’s “personal relationship with God” to the term “Hail Mary pass” (which got its start with a game-winning Roger Staubach desperation heave). But Roy Williams took things a bit further in Saturday’s game against the Seahawks, when he intercepted a pass and then pulled down his jersey to reveal a sticker on his shoulder pads (here’s a larger view).

I didn’t know what was shown on the sticker, but reader Ed from Dallas did. In Saturday’s Comments section, he wrote, “That’s the logo for his church here in Dallas: Inspirational Body of Christ. It’s a HUGE church right down the street from my house.” Actually, it turns out that the church is called Inspiring Body of Christ, and sure enough, their logo is what appeared on Williams’s pads. (The church’s full web site is here.)

Williams is hardly the first athlete to showcase his religious affiliation on his uniform, of course. Brady Quinn draws an ichthys around the Adidas logo on his play-calling wristband, and little cross pins have sometimes found their way onto baseball caps (more on that phenomenon here), among lots of other examples. But Williams is the first player I can think of who’s promoted a specific church.

Interestingly, the holy pigskin pendulum appears to have been swinging away from the Cowboys lately. Their bizarre last-second loss to the Redskins last November is already being referred to as the “Hand of God” game, and Saturday’s field goal blunder was as clear a case of divine intervention as you’ll ever see. Maybe God has a new favorite team. Or maybe Roy Williams should think about trying a different church.

(Big thanks to John Okray and Michael Rich, who both submitted Roy Williams screen shots.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: Friday’s mention of this Braves pennant led to a communiqué from Craig Bates, who’s in the process of selling some of his father’s old pennants. Pretty cool stuff with lots of old uni and logo details, as you can see in this gallery. He promises more photos as he goes through the collection. ”¦ Faaaaaascinating note from Joe Wagner, who writes: “I was at the University of Iowa women’s basketball game on 12/31/06 and the halftime show was ‘Granny Basketball.’ It’s a league for women over 50 and they play using rules from the 1920s. This means they play six-on-six (which used to be the norm for girls’ high school basketball in Iowa until the 1990s). In six-on-six, you play offense or defense and you can’t cross half-court. Anyway, what really struck me were the uniforms. They all had some outrageous stripeage on their socks. Most wore neon-colored socks with black stripes. And there were a mix of colors on each team. Very tacky. Unfortunately, I didn’t have a camera with me.” I’ve asked the league’s director for some better photos — stay tuned. ”¦ Does this qualify as animal cruelty? (As spotted by Jeremy Brahm.) ”¦ Richard Bruns spotted something you don’t see very often (if ever): a square-collared basketball jersey. ”¦ Charles Eldridge won a local “Why are you a great Mighty Ducks fan in 30 words or less” contest by submitting a trio of haikus, oen of which went like so: ” Proudly wearing Jade / And Eggplant jersey to school, / Junior High was tough.” ”¦ Good article about NBA headbands here. ”¦ Leigh McArthur has turned up a weird one: Check out the Kumho Red Wings of the Korean women’s hoops league. If you want more (and can read Korean), the team’s web site is here. ”¦ Lots of readers wrote in to note that Nate Burleson of the Seahawks was wearing a purple and yellow mouthguard — presumably a holdover from his Vikings days — during Saturday’s game against Dallas. No pics, unfortunately. ”¦ You can buy a Jack Traschner jersey on MLB.com. Only problem is, the player’s name is actually Taschner (good catch by Kevin Cunningham).

 
  
 
Comments (164)

    Kevin Mawae used to do a link out of athletic tape on his facemask when he was with the Jets. Don’t know how he got this past the uniform police.

    I thought when i was watching the Colts game Saturday, Joeseh Addai’s jeysey had the 9 way above the 2 on his chest, and after finding some pictures, it looks like that was the case.

    link

    link

    [quote comment=”39162″]I thought when i was watching the Colts game Saturday, Joeseh Addai’s jeysey had the 9 way above the 2 on his chest, and after finding some pictures, it looks like that was the case.

    link

    link

    Looks to me like a bad tape job on his shoulder pads.

    I have some pajamas from Victoria’s Secret that look much like link Yeah, was a gift.

    It looks like the top of Addai’s 2 is scrunched down for some reason. The middle part of the 2 and 9 match up.

    Paul,
    A few months ago (around Thanksgiving) you had a great article on the Browns subtle uniform changes. I may have overlooked it but I didn’t see any mention of the color of their numbers. The brown jersey obviously has white numbers and I assumed that the white jerseys have brown numbers (like the stripes) but it is difficult to tell if it is brown or black. Any info?

    I noticed in the Pats-Jets game yesterday that the Jets’ left breast logo varied widely in its placement on the uniforms, sometimes entirely within the white front of the jersey, but often partially or completely on the inner green shoulder stripe that wraps around to the front. I don’t have time to find pictures right now, but I’m sure others here noticed it?

    [quote comment=”39166″]Paul,
    A few months ago (around Thanksgiving) you had a great article on the Browns subtle uniform changes. I may have overlooked it but I didn’t see any mention of the color of their numbers. The brown jersey obviously has white numbers and I assumed that the white jerseys have brown numbers (like the stripes) but it is difficult to tell if it is brown or black. Any info?[/quote]

    The numbers are brown.

    [quote comment=”39165″]I have some pajamas from Victoria’s Secret that look much like link Yeah, was a gift.[/quote]

    I thought the uniform looked a little like link, although it’s a Korean league, not Japanese.

    [quote comment=”39162″]I thought when i was watching the Colts game Saturday, Joeseh Addai’s jeysey had the 9 way above the 2 on his chest, and after finding some pictures, it looks like that was the case.

    link

    link
    It looks like he has a front (10″) 2, and a back (12″) 9.

    Was it just me or did Eli have something written on the forhead bumper of his helmet yesterday?

    Was it me or does Eli Manning just plain stink? Sorry, not Uni-related, just a frustrated Jints fan.

    [quote comment=”39185″]Was it just me or did Eli have something written on the forhead bumper of his helmet yesterday?[/quote]

    Yeah, I think it said “It’s been nice knowing you, Tom Coughlin”.

    Actually, no… there was nothing there other than the link.

    [quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.

    Maybe Romo Should’ve Worn One Too… maybe Tony should have borrowed one of TO’s gloves!!

    can’t find any pics, but i know Antonio Pierce was wearing a plastic cup chin strap that had a small “NY” on it…hadnt seen anything like it before

    Pfft, old ladies playing basketball is nothing compared to the Mascot Hockey I saw at a Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL) game on Saturday.
    Apparently when it’s a mascot’s birthday they invite the mascots of every team or business nearby to come party with them.
    The game featured teams of Team Bruiser: Bruiser (Bulldogs), Stripes (Tiger-Cats) Ace (Toronto Blue Jays), Sarge (Brampton Battalion OHL), and Spike (Guelph Storm OHL) vs. A sausage, Home Depot mascot, Pizza Pizza mascot, and a country radio station mascot.
    I really thought it was weird to see so many teams with no affiliation at all cross promoting like this…then again I’ve seen the Bulldogs (Habs colours) wearing long sleeved football jerseys as an ugly cross promotion with the Ti-Cats so really there’s no level left to sink to I guess.

    (Do mascots count as uni-discussion?)

    [quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]
    Luckily I support only one adidas team (Red Bull NY)…. those templates suck!

    I usually don’t get here on the weekends so maybe this was mentioned, but Davis Love III had rain shorts on OVER his pants on Friday in Hawaii. Nick Faldo had a comment about it every time they showed him.

    Reminds me of the situation — different but related — where Ben Roethlisberger got in trouble for writing “PFJ” on his cleats back in 2004. The full story is link.

    [quote comment=”39199″][quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]
    Luckily I support only one adidas team (Red Bull NY)…. those templates suck![/quote]

    I agree, those are some of the worst templates I’ve ever seen. But, I do like link, a lot. Well, when it’s paired with the plain shorts like in figure 4. Same goes for linkkeeper jersey. But, keeper jersey’s are very well known for being some of the link around.

    [quote comment=”39198″]Pfft, old ladies playing basketball is nothing compared to the Mascot Hockey I saw at a Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL) game on Saturday.
    Apparently when it’s a mascot’s birthday they invite the mascots of every team or business nearby to come party with them.
    The game featured teams of Team Bruiser: Bruiser (Bulldogs), Stripes (Tiger-Cats) Ace (Toronto Blue Jays), Sarge (Brampton Battalion OHL), and Spike (Guelph Storm OHL) vs. A sausage, Home Depot mascot, Pizza Pizza mascot, and a country radio station mascot.
    I really thought it was weird to see so many teams with no affiliation at all cross promoting like this…then again I’ve seen the Bulldogs (Habs colours) wearing long sleeved football jerseys as an ugly cross promotion with the Ti-Cats so really there’s no level left to sink to I guess.

    (Do mascots count as uni-discussion?)[/quote]

    You mean like link? (btw… notice Mr. Met is in black!)

    While we’re at it, I’d like to sing the praises of T.C. Bear, because that guy can rip some shots. The Twins trot him out for a softball homerun derby before Saturday games at the dome against local “celebrities” (Vikings, T-Wolves, radio personalities, etc…) and he hits bombs. They set up a plate behind 2nd base and he launches upper deck shots… They have those curtains in the upper deck of right field with the big pictures of retired Twins, and I saw him hit Kirby Puckett in the face.

    I don’t think he’s ever lost a derby. He’s unbelievable. I’m convinced they put Justin Morneau in the bear suit.

    [quote comment=”39189″]Yeah, I think it said “It’s been nice knowing you, Tom Coughlin”.

    Actually, no… there was nothing there other than the link.[/quote]

    That’s the link look.

    [quote comment=”39198″]Pfft, old ladies playing basketball is nothing compared to the Mascot Hockey I saw at a Hamilton Bulldogs (AHL) game on Saturday.
    Apparently when it’s a mascot’s birthday they invite the mascots of every team or business nearby to come party with them.
    The game featured teams of Team Bruiser: Bruiser (Bulldogs), Stripes (Tiger-Cats) Ace (Toronto Blue Jays), Sarge (Brampton Battalion OHL), and Spike (Guelph Storm OHL) vs. A sausage, Home Depot mascot, Pizza Pizza mascot, and a country radio station mascot.
    I really thought it was weird to see so many teams with no affiliation at all cross promoting like this…[/quote]

    Michigan has had mascot basketball during halftime before. It was actually thoroughly entertaining. My favorites were the link and link. Unfortunately, the one I saw was a couple years ago, so I can’t remember the rosters.

    [quote comment=”39188″]Was it me or does Eli Manning just plain stink? Sorry, not Uni-related, just a frustrated Jints fan.[/quote]

    I don’t think he had a particularly bad day (he did throw 2 TDs, after all). The Giant defense just couldn’t stop the Eagles when they needed to.

    [quote comment=”39189″][quote comment=”39185″]Was it just me or did Eli have something written on the forhead bumper of his helmet yesterday?[/quote]

    Yeah, I think it said “It’s been nice knowing you, Tom Coughlin”.

    Actually, no… there was nothing there other than the link.[/quote]

    My bad. I thought it said ‘Toy’

    I was drunk.

    [quote comment=”39199″][quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]
    Luckily I support only one adidas team (Red Bull NY)…. those templates suck![/quote]

    While I don’t find the templates particularly hideous, I think this is the essence of why we hate on Nike and Adidas. By creating templates for team uniforms, it removes the unique nature of each team. The same problem exists with Nike and its college basketball template.

    Anyone have any photos of the Nike sweaters that selected college hockey teams wore during the holiday tournaments? Post ’em if you’ve got ’em.

    Check out this link about Raven’s playoff fever here in Baltimore. Paul might want to avoid the general area for the time being (what with his dislike of a certain color which shall not be named)! Check out the second video next to the story for more visuals.

    [quote comment=”39216″][quote comment=”39199″][quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]
    Luckily I support only one adidas team (Red Bull NY)…. those templates suck![/quote]

    While I don’t find the templates particularly hideous, I think this is the essence of why we hate on Nike and Adidas. By creating templates for team uniforms, it removes the unique nature of each team. The same problem exists with Nike and its college basketball template.[/quote]Nike doesn’t use soccer templates though…

    Ohio State finished #1 in the final BCS rankings, making them the home team for tonight’s game. However, they will be wearing their road white uniforms for the game and Florida will be in their home blues.

    GO BUCKS!

    [quote comment=”39216″][quote comment=”39199″][quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]
    Luckily I support only one adidas team (Red Bull NY)…. those templates suck![/quote]

    While I don’t find the templates particularly hideous, I think this is the essence of why we hate on Nike and Adidas. By creating templates for team uniforms, it removes the unique nature of each team. The same problem exists with Nike and its college basketball template.[/quote]

    I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy. When they come out with the first Germany or Argentina jersey using one of those templates, then we can go crazy. After all, after years of using templates, Nike redeemed themselves in this last World Cup. adidas still has a chance to do the same.

    [quote comment=”39222″]There is an article today on Espn.com ranking current NHL uniforms.

    link

    this is from last week, but updated today. we discussed it Thursday or Friday of last week, and how there is a lack of image use.

    Nike doesn’t use soccer templates though…

    That’s the funny thing. They used to (see 2002-2004), but recently saw the light. Too bad only the soccer department has seen the error of its ways. My guess is that the market for soccer gear is considerably bigger than the market for replica college unis. So why not save dough and leverage existing designs?

    Top european clubs and entire nations have huge fan bases and from the looks of it, they buy tons of merch. But how many college hoops or football jerseys do you see people wear (besides, maybe UNC basketball)?

    [quote comment=”39217″]Anyone have any photos of the Nike sweaters that selected college hockey teams wore during the holiday tournaments? Post ’em if you’ve got ’em.[/quote]

    link

    I watched this one one tv, and those gold jerseys without the horizontal striping at the bottom are brutal.

    [quote comment=”39192″][quote comment=”39180″]Soccer-uni-related: Adidas has released the new “templates” on which all jerseys of the upcoming season will be based. See link, link and link. With new goalie jerseys link, link, link and link.[/quote]

    Can’t say anything about the keeper templates, because as we saw yesterday, keepers are just link.

    Don’t like the asymmetical designs, though.[/quote]

    Goalkeepers are definitely a different breed. You have to be a little crazy to play that position.

    Who could forget Jorge Campos? link

    More Campos: link

    Anyone remember when Tony Meola had a mullet? link

    As a rule, I hate templates for uniforms (uniforms afterall are supposed to be unique to each team), and I really hate goalie templates, but those are at least better than this: link

    [quote comment=”39228″][quote comment=”39217″]Anyone have any photos of the Nike sweaters that selected college hockey teams wore during the holiday tournaments? Post ’em if you’ve got ’em.[/quote]

    link

    I watched this one one tv, and those gold jerseys without the horizontal striping at the bottom are brutal.[/quote]

    link a better look at them without the horizonal striping. *cringe*

    Pat, I see you beat me to the Jorge Campos reference. Kudos to you on that.

    I don’t see how anybody could discuss soccer uniforms and not at least make mention of Campos. The nicest thing I can think to say is that he certainly wore the most unique uniforms in the sport.

    Are keepers the only player on the team that can wear the number 1? This has been bothering me since World Cup time.

    [quote comment=”39231″][quote comment=”39228″][quote comment=”39217″]Anyone have any photos of the Nike sweaters that selected college hockey teams wore during the holiday tournaments? Post ’em if you’ve got ’em.[/quote]

    link

    I watched this one one tv, and those gold jerseys without the horizontal striping at the bottom are brutal.[/quote]

    link a better look at them without the horizonal striping. *cringe*[/quote]

    Ouch…they look like practice jersey’s

    [quote comment=”39210″][quote comment=”39188″]Was it me or does Eli Manning just plain stink? Sorry, not Uni-related, just a frustrated Jints fan.[/quote]

    I don’t think he had a particularly bad day (he did throw 2 TDs, after all). The Giant defense just couldn’t stop the Eagles when they needed to.[/quote]

    Yeah – unless Eli can tackle as well, he played OK. Did Will Demps make ANY plays this year – or R.W. McQuarters? THose guys were AWFUL in coverage and in tackling.

    quote]Nike doesn’t use soccer templates though…[/quote]

    Sure they do. It was less obvious in this last World Cup, but the 2002 Nike Soccer uni’s were almost entirely one template.

    The current Nike template is far less apparent, but they all do have the off color “sleave notches”.

    [quote comment=”39236″]
    Yeah – unless Eli can tackle as well, he played OK. Did Will Demps make ANY plays this year – or R.W. McQuarters? THose guys were AWFUL in coverage and in tackling.[/quote]

    It looked to me like McQuarters was sporting a new band-aid under his right eye. I’ve seen him wearing blue sponge bob band-aids in the past, but last night he wore a red one. link is the only image I could find of it…you can see that it’s red, but not the detail.

    I noticed Roy Williams pull down his shirt, but I couldn’t tell what the logo was. I assumed that it was some corporate logo (looked like a Coca-Cola logo to me).

    And after it happened, I thought to myself, “I wonder what will be said about this on UniWatch.”

    [quote comment=”39234″]Are keepers the only player on the team that can wear the number 1? This has been bothering me since World Cup time.[/quote]

    Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.

    Whatever. I’ve flown in and out of DFW 100 times and I’ve yet to hear a pilot make such an announcement over Texas Stadium. If he did, there would be a run on barf bags from the non-Texans making their American Airlines connection at that airport…

    Not to nitpick too much, but this site is about attention to detail: Technically a crucifix includes the body of Jesus, so the majority of those pins Paul is referring to are crosses – the crucifix/cross being the most important sign of Christianity.

    [quote comment=”39210″][quote comment=”39188″]Was it me or does Eli Manning just plain stink? Sorry, not Uni-related, just a frustrated Jints fan.[/quote]

    I don’t think he had a particularly bad day (he did throw 2 TDs, after all). The Giant defense just couldn’t stop the Eagles when they needed to.[/quote]

    He couldn’t put a pass on the money to save his life! Almost every big pass play was an acrobatic catch by a receiver off a less-than-stellar throw.

    [quote comment=”39223″]Ohio State finished #1 in the final BCS rankings, making them the home team for tonight’s game. However, they will be wearing their road white uniforms for the game and Florida will be in their home blues.

    GO BUCKS![/quote]

    We heard rumblings about this back in November, but I didn’t realize they actually already made the decision.

    I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy.

    Thing is they’ll use the same for pro teams and even national teams. Compare for instance link with link or link jersey. Or this link with link, link or link jersey.

    Just read this in on Page 2:
    [quote]Chiefs running back Larry Johnson shaved the logo of hip-hop label Roc-A-Fella Records into his head for Saturday’s game. I suppose that was a pretty good way for Johnson to show he is “keeping it real,” but it still pales in comparison to the huge “Thug Life” tattoo Peyton Manning has on his chest.[/quote]

    First of all, if he did that, then cool. link is probably not the easiest thing to shave into someone’s head. Second, anyone have visual evidence of it?

    Throw your diamonds in the sky if you feel the vibe.

    [quote comment=”39224″]I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy. When they come out with the first Germany or Argentina jersey using one of those templates, then we can go crazy. After all, after years of using templates, Nike redeemed themselves in this last World Cup. adidas still has a chance to do the same.[/quote]

    But adidas does run templates for both pro clubs and national teams. Here’s link kit from the last world cup.
    And here’s link. And here’s link other jersey.

    Now compare that with link. And this one link.

    [quote comment=”39251″][quote comment=”39223″]Ohio State finished #1 in the final BCS rankings, making them the home team for tonight’s game. However, they will be wearing their road white uniforms for the game and Florida will be in their home blues.

    GO BUCKS![/quote]

    We heard rumblings about this back in November, but I didn’t realize they actually already made the decision.[/quote]

    I’m getting ready for the game and just before I posted it, I saw something on the Ohio News Network about it and ESPN showed Florida’s locker room and it had their blue jerseys on their chairs.

    [quote comment=”39237″]quote]Nike doesn’t use soccer templates though…[/quote]

    Sure they do. It was less obvious in this last World Cup, but the 2002 Nike Soccer uni’s were almost entirely one template.

    The current Nike template is far less apparent, but they all do have the off color “sleave notches”.[/quote]
    I’ve noticed. There are certain design elements that are the same among jerseys, but none are exactly the SAME. It’s nowhere near like Puma, where everything’s identical, or adidas, where argentina’s dark blue shirt is not much more than France’s blue shirt with different body and accent colors.

    [quote comment=”39252″] I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy.

    Thing is they’ll use the same for pro teams and even national teams. Compare for instance link with link or link jersey. Or this link with link, link or link jersey.[/quote]

    Go back and read Paul’s pre-World Cup round up of all the uniforms. Al the jerseys are linked there and you can see that a number of teams are using these “new” adidas templates. (You need Insider to view it at ESPN.com but here is a few links:
    link
    link
    link
    link
    These were, of course, great ways to market their new templates. Seems to me if we ARE going to get up in arms about these and their use in professional soccer now is the time since they have already been implemented.

    [quote comment=”39253″]Just read this in on Page 2:
    [quote]Chiefs running back Larry Johnson shaved the logo of hip-hop label Roc-A-Fella Records into his head for Saturday’s game. I suppose that was a pretty good way for Johnson to show he is “keeping it real,” but it still pales in comparison to the huge “Thug Life” tattoo Peyton Manning has on his chest.[/quote]

    First of all, if he did that, then cool. link is probably not the easiest thing to shave into someone’s head. Second, anyone have visual evidence of it?

    Throw your diamonds in the sky if you feel the vibe.[/quote]
    link

    [quote comment=”39254″][quote comment=”39224″]I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy. When they come out with the first Germany or Argentina jersey using one of those templates, then we can go crazy. After all, after years of using templates, Nike redeemed themselves in this last World Cup. adidas still has a chance to do the same.[/quote]

    But adidas does run templates for both pro clubs and national teams. Here’s link kit from the last world cup.
    And here’s link. And here’s link other jersey.

    Now compare that with link. And this one link.[/quote]

    I may not have been clear enough, but I am aware that adidas used templates this year. That is why I said they have a chance to “redeem ” themselves as Nike recently did. On a related note, I don’t consider jerseys “templates” if they simply use the same construction design (swatches of fabric, stitching, etc.) The shape of the collar (and other minor elements) on Nike jerseys may have been the same in the World Cup, but the jerseys major design elements differed, which shows that Nike wasn’t lazy about it.

    [quote comment=”39259″][quote comment=”39252″] I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy.

    Thing is they’ll use the same for pro teams and even national teams. Compare for instance link with link or link jersey. Or this link with link, link or link jersey.[/quote]

    Go back and read Paul’s pre-World Cup round up of all the uniforms. Al the jerseys are linked there and you can see that a number of teams are using these “new” adidas templates. (You need Insider to view it at ESPN.com but here is a few links:
    link
    link
    link
    link
    These were, of course, great ways to market their new templates. Seems to me if we ARE going to get up in arms about these and their use in professional soccer now is the time since they have already been implemented.[/quote]

    The templates posted in the comments today are newer then those used in the World Cup.

    [quote comment=”39260″][quote comment=”39253″]Just read this in on Page 2:
    [quote]Chiefs running back Larry Johnson shaved the logo of hip-hop label Roc-A-Fella Records into his head for Saturday’s game. I suppose that was a pretty good way for Johnson to show he is “keeping it real,” but it still pales in comparison to the huge “Thug Life” tattoo Peyton Manning has on his chest.[/quote]

    Very cool. I was hoping it would be the other logo, but that one works for me too. Flashes of Anthony Mason going through my head as we speak.

    First of all, if he did that, then cool. link is probably not the easiest thing to shave into someone’s head. Second, anyone have visual evidence of it?

    Throw your diamonds in the sky if you feel the vibe.[/quote]
    link[/quote]

    Ah, damn, how did that happen. This is what I wanted to say:
    Very cool. I was hoping it would be the other logo, but that one works for me too. Flashes of Anthony Mason going through my head as we speak.

    Specs had a point. He understands that adidas runs templates, but he says that Nike had templates until the 2006 World Cup, and he hopes that 2007 can be when adidas stops using templates like Nike did in 06. I hope so, but I’m not holding my breath.

    Nike’s 2002 template: link link link
    Nike’s 2004 Template link link link
    Nike’s 2006 not template: link link link

    I say that for two reasons:
    1. to say that Nike hasn’t always put out good soccer jerseys.
    and
    2. Now that they’ve seen the light, the results have been brilliant. No one can tell me that those jerseys are templates in the sense of adidas, Puma, Joma (link, link, link, link…Yuck!), even though some elements may be shared across jerseys.

    [quote comment=”39262″][quote comment=”39259″][quote comment=”39252″] I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy.

    Thing is they’ll use the same for pro teams and even national teams. Compare for instance link with link or link jersey. Or this link with link, link or link jersey.[/quote]

    Go back and read Paul’s pre-World Cup round up of all the uniforms. Al the jerseys are linked there and you can see that a number of teams are using these “new” adidas templates. (You need Insider to view it at ESPN.com but here is a few links:
    link
    link
    link
    link
    These were, of course, great ways to market their new templates. Seems to me if we ARE going to get up in arms about these and their use in professional soccer now is the time since they have already been implemented.[/quote]

    The templates posted in the comments today are newer then those used in the World Cup.[/quote]

    True, but they are the same basic idea with the exception of link. I think the thing people are kind of upset about is the use of a template at all. And, that article is clearly proof that a template is used for a number of uniforms.

    In regards to the NY Times article about headbands in the NBA, I remember when he started wearing them with Portland. Back in the good old days, when the Memorial Coliseum was packed every night, there were a group of season ticket holders behind the Blazers bench who would put on a matching headband when Robinson would enter the game. During one stretch when Robinson was in a slump, be broke out a multi-colored head band made up of red, white, and black pieces sewn together. When his headband buddies behind the bench saw that, they ended up putting on ALL THREE different color headbands. It was quite a sight to see! Sadly, I haven’t been able to find any imgaes of it online…

    Maybe the Lord will reveal some better pursuit angles to Roy this off-season before he gets owned by Jerramy Stevens again.

    [quote comment=”39248″]Not to nitpick too much, but this site is about attention to detail: Technically a crucifix includes the body of Jesus, so the majority of those pins Paul is referring to are crosses.[/quote]

    Thanks for the correction — never apologize for “nitpicking” when you’re correcting a legitimate error. I’ll update the text right now.

    Paul,

    Got a playoff uni question for you. I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?

    Also, how much of a financial commitment does it take for the teams to revamp their logo and redesign their uniforms. Thanks.

    [quote comment=”39257″][quote comment=”39237″]quote]Nike doesn’t use soccer templates though…[/quote]

    Sure they do. It was less obvious in this last World Cup, but the 2002 Nike Soccer uni’s were almost entirely one template.

    The current Nike template is far less apparent, but they all do have the off color “sleave notches”.[/quote]
    I’ve noticed. There are certain design elements that are the same among jerseys, but none are exactly the SAME.

    It’s nowhere near like Puma, where everything’s identical, or adidas, where argentina’s dark blue shirt is not much more than France’s blue shirt with different body and accent colors.[/quote]

    Nike has certainly toned it down, and addidas certainly has picked up that ball and run with it, but Nike does have a few design templates. If you take the USA whites, with the stripes down the left side of the chest, and compare that to the Croatian Dark, it’s the same design. Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the croatian jersey.

    If you take the USA whites, with the stripes down the left side of the chest, and compare that to the Croatian Dark, it’s the same design. Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the croatian jersey.

    Here it is:

    link,

    [quote comment=”39270″]I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?[/quote]

    The “only twice” rule was instituted in part to protect the league’s retailing partners. If you run a Sports Authority outlet and have a shitload of standard Bills jerseys in stock, you don’t want the Bills to start wearing throwbacks every week. In short, another case of the merchandising tail wagging the on-field dog.

    To my knowledge, the only team that’s worn an alt uniform in the post-season was the 1994 49ers. That was the league’s “diamond anniversary” season, when all teams link during the middle of the season, and the Niners liked theirs so much that they got permission to keep wearing them for the balance off the season, including the playoffs and Super Bowl.

    [quote comment=”39270″]Also, how much of a financial commitment does it take for the teams to revamp their logo and redesign their uniforms. Thanks.[/quote]

    No idea. Anyone..?

    Is link also wearing a black armband, possibly for mourning the loss of someone. I know it can’t be for Darrent Williams, link had the “band” on against Philly on Christmas too.

    Or is it something else?

    [quote comment=”39288″]Is link also wearing a black armband, possibly for mourning the loss of someone. I know it can’t be for Darrent Williams, link had the “band” on against Philly on Christmas too.

    Or is it something else?[/quote]

    It looks like it could be the sleeve to a shoulder brace. I had several teammates where them in high school.

    Something that has bugged me the last couple of weeks: the Cowboys helmets have a small blue sticker on the back, right at the base. What is on that? It looks like it could have the player’s name on it, since the Cowboys don’t have numbers on their helmets.

    You can see the sticker I’m talking about on link photo of Jason Witten.

    [quote comment=”39297″]Something that has bugged me the last couple of weeks: the Cowboys helmets have a small blue sticker on the back, right at the base. What is on that? It looks like it could have the player’s name on it, since the Cowboys don’t have numbers on their helmets.

    You can see the sticker I’m talking about on link photo of Jason Witten.[/quote]

    It’s their names made from a labelmaker.

    [quote comment=”39270″]Paul,

    Got a playoff uni question for you. I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?

    Also, how much of a financial commitment does it take for the teams to revamp their logo and redesign their uniforms. Thanks.[/quote]

    Along those same lines, if a team (NFL) decides to change its primary uniform design, are there league guidlines for making such a change.

    i.e. requests for league approval; a grace or waiting period before a newly approved uniform can be worn on field?

    I imagine the “No Fun League” would have rules like this for the same reason as restricting throwbacks and alternates, to prevent merchandisers from getting stuck with unsold stock of old designs.

    With that, if a team had not worn alternate jerseys their alloted 2 times (or even if they had), *could* a team wear alternate jerseys in a playoff game? Anyone?

    [quote comment=”39297″]Something that has bugged me the last couple of weeks: the Cowboys helmets have a small blue sticker on the back, right at the base. What is on that? It looks like it could have the player’s name on it, since the Cowboys don’t have numbers on their helmets.

    You can see the sticker I’m talking about on link photo of Jason Witten.[/quote]

    It’s a little sticker with his name on it…I know someone posted that on here awhile ago

    [quote comment=”39272″]If you take the USA whites, with the stripes down the left side of the chest, and compare that to the Croatian Dark, it’s the same design. Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the croatian jersey.

    Here it is:

    link
    To link to subside images, click “ZOOM” and link to that image, FYI.

    Croatia has always had the picnic cloth in some form in their blue jerseys, while the US jersey is inspired (loosely) by the US 1950s shirts with the diagonal sash. Unique IMO.

    Don’t know if this was mentioned as it happened, but the Seattle fans are copying the hideous neon green glovewear worn by Seahawk receivers,

    link

    Sorry if this has been noticed….

    [quote comment=”39252″] I agree with your stance on templates, but you can’t hate on adidas yet, because these are just generic templates for youth club/high school teams to buy.

    Thing is they’ll use the same for pro teams and even national teams. Compare for instance link with link or link jersey. Or this link with link, link or link jersey.[/quote]

    Something’s fishy about the “ü” in “Bayern München”. My knowledge of the German language isn’t THAT great, but that certainly doesn’t look like a standard umlaut to me.

    [quote comment=”39195″]Anybody know where I can get a brand-new SF Giants “Barry Zrito” jersey?[/quote]

    Yeah…

    Just look in, um, last place for the next few years. Should be plenty of Zito and Giants stuff there for a while.

    I didn’t get to see much of the Cowboys/Seahawks game, but I’m surprised nobody mentioned that they appeared to have handed out green gloves to the fans, to match what some of the players wear. I remember seeing info about the players wearing these gloves in a past blog entry.

    why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?

    Anyone notice how Brian Dawkins of the Eagles wasn’t wearing his typical dark visor last night? I can’t remember seeing him wear a clear visor before. His dark visor is as much for intimidation as it is for his eye condition.

    link


    Dark Visor

    [quote comment=”39301″][quote comment=”39270″]Paul,

    Got a playoff uni question for you. I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?

    Also, how much of a financial commitment does it take for the teams to revamp their logo and redesign their uniforms. Thanks.[/quote]

    Along those same lines, if a team (NFL) decides to change its primary uniform design, are there league guidlines for making such a change.

    i.e. requests for league approval; a grace or waiting period before a newly approved uniform can be worn on field?

    I imagine the “No Fun League” would have rules like this for the same reason as restricting throwbacks and alternates, to prevent merchandisers from getting stuck with unsold stock of old designs.

    With that, if a team had not worn alternate jerseys their alloted 2 times (or even if they had), *could* a team wear alternate jerseys in a playoff game? Anyone?[/quote]

    I pray not. Home playoff games are a precious commodity. The main home unis should be worn. I would like to see the NFL restrict use of 3rd jerseys more than once per year with a few exceptions.

    [quote comment=”39321″]why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?[/quote]
    The women’s athletics programs at Tennessee have added blue to their color-scheme (this happenned a while back). In fact, the women’s programs have their own dedicated website: link.

    I kinda liken it to how the men’s teams have added black to their color-scheme: link.

    Personally…I like the blue in the women’s teams…but the black needs to go.

    I may not have been clear enough, but I am aware that adidas used templates this year. That is why I said they have a chance to “redeem ” themselves as Nike recently did.

    Adidas have used templated for YEARS:
    link

    link

    link

    link

    link

    link
    Adidas have made a practise of templating kits!

    [quote comment=”39308″][quote comment=”39272″]If you take the USA whites, with the stripes down the left side of the chest, and compare that to the Croatian Dark, it’s the same design. Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the croatian jersey.

    Here it is:

    link
    To link to subside images, click “ZOOM” and link to that image, FYI.

    Croatia has always had the picnic cloth in some form in their blue jerseys, while the US jersey is inspired (loosely) by the US 1950s shirts with the diagonal sash. Unique IMO.[/quote]

    The “picnic cloth” design is part of the Croatian national coat-of-arms.

    [quote comment=”39327″][quote comment=”39321″]why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?[/quote]
    The women’s athletics programs at Tennessee have added blue to their color-scheme (this happenned a while back). In fact, the women’s programs have their own dedicated website: link.

    I kinda liken it to how the men’s teams have added black to their color-scheme: link.

    Personally…I like the blue in the women’s teams…but the black needs to go.[/quote]

    As I recall, there was a time when UT’s men’s teams — football, at least — also sported some blue (more of a royal).

    Something’s fishy about the “ü” in “Bayern München”. My knowledge of the German language isn’t THAT great, but that certainly doesn’t look like a standard umlaut to me.

    As a native speaker of German I can assure you that you’re instincts are right about this not being a standard Umlaut. A regular “Ãœ” has two dots, not just one. I guess they used that for some obscure (or not so obscure?) design reason.

    As for adidas not having used the new templates for club and national teams, I talked somebody working at adidas who is responsible for “selling” the templates to the teams (interesting, by the way, that there’s one guy for all the teams in the Bundesliga and one guy solely responsible for Bayern Munich) and AFAIK at least Nuremberg (my team in the Bundesliga) are going to use a template again fro their new home shirt coming out this summer. They’ll do something “special” for Nuremberg again, since they’re the team closest to adidas headquarters in Herzogenaurach, like they did the years before with a black back instead of a red back or the use of maroon on the “Apollo”(?) template, but they’ll still use a template, so I guess they won’t be the only ones.

    [quote comment=”39244″][quote comment=”39234″]Are keepers the only player on the team that can wear the number 1? This has been bothering me since World Cup time.[/quote]

    Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.[/quote]

    Numbers in soccer used to have a speciic position on the field associated with them. 1=keeper, 2-5= defender, 6-9=midfield, and 10-11=striker for example. thus, this is why youll see most keepers wear 1. when someone talks about a “number 10” they are referring to the second striker position (this number has become the most strained due to its popularity due to those who wore it in the past: pele/maradona). beckham, figo, and cristiano ronaldo (all rw) wear 7. so to answer your question, anyone can wear 1, but most of the time you will see a keeper wear 1. and if a new keeper comes in and starts many times he will wear 12 (the number 1 after the first XI). its not a rule, just tradition

    [quote comment=”39327″][quote comment=”39321″]why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?[/quote]
    The women’s athletics programs at Tennessee have added blue to their color-scheme (this happenned a while back). In fact, the women’s programs have their own dedicated website: link.

    I kinda liken it to how the men’s teams have added black to their color-scheme: link.

    Personally…I like the blue in the women’s teams…but the black needs to go.[/quote]

    Not that anybody really asked, but the UT men and women have different color schemes (and different web sites) because they are separate departments. (Separate ADs, Sports Info, AT, budgets, etc.)

    For all intents and purposes, they are as different as UNC and NC State. They just happen to go to class in the same location.

    For soccer numbers, 1 is the starting keeper, 6 is the stud defender, 10 is the top playmaker, 9 is the top striker, and everyone fills inaround those. I don’t like those ranges mentioned before because there are so many exceptions. Some players have preferences. Materazzi wears 23 for his wedding anniversary or birthday or something, Kasey Keller wears 18 because it was his first number or something (though he wears 1 at Mönchengladbach). I’m sure there are hundreds of others.

    Remember the early 90’s adidas equipment templates?

    link

    link

    link

    link

    link

    link

    Hit the “proximo” text to scroll through a ton of National team kits. Notice something similar with early 90’s Adidas sopnsored sides?

    Case closed?

    Hey, MetsfanAZ, guess what I got in the mail today??? Thanks so much. Now, I can drool over my favorite safety in (almost) all his glory while figuring out the right suit to wear—if I can juuuuuuust find the index (didn’t that used to be in the front of a magazine?) amidst the plethora (overkill, really) of ads. Thanks again! You are a prince among men.

    P.S. I like the goalie kits best because they are imaginative. In the case of futbol, I would rather take the zany over the templates. Yes, they are templates even if they are tweaked a bit for each team.

    Notice something similar with early 90’s Adidas sponsored sides?

    The 1992 Bulgaria jersey is the same template as was worn by link in the 91/92 season (the year Nuremberg wore their well-loved link which were also styled by adidas).

    Okay, I admit my “innocent-until-proven-guilty_ approach with this year’s line of adidas uniforms was stupidly optimistic. However, I think there’s another aspect to the debate on soccer templates. There are a TON of professional/national soccer teams. While there is no excuse for suppliers to cop out and use templates for the relatively small number of teams in the World Cup, it is unrealistic to expect adidas, Nike, or anyone else to come up with a different design for every single professional team. In the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL, the uniforms are all different, but don’t the teams design the uniforms themselves (not to mention that they change much less frequently than soccer uniforms)? In soccer, how much fault is that of the suppliers, and how much of it falls on the individual teams for not designing their own uniforms?

    @specs: I can talk a little bit about the process at adidas, b/c, as I said, I talked to the guy doing most of the dealings with the Bundesliga teams. (Hope I’m getting this right, was a while back) He said that they (adidas) come to the teams with their templates and some first design ideas. The officials (usually chairman, managing director, coach) then decide on some of the ideas, give their own feedback on posible changes. After that adidas comes back to them with three choices and the officials choose one. I guess it’s kind of an economic decision for the teams not to design the unis themselves. You’d have to contract the design process out, spend money on that, then find someone to manufacture it. When the suplier does all the design work you save money on that side and b/c the manufacturer produces large amounts of the jerseys beceause they’re templated anyways. While I gues for large-market teams like Bayern Munich it might be lucrative to do all that themselves for small-market teams the amount of jersey sold usually isn’t high enough to warrant an autonomous design-manufactoring process, I guess.
    (Little sidenote, Nuremberg actually did “manufacture” their alternate jersey for this season, they just bought a regular set of templated jersey without any logo or sponsoring on it, like any rec-league team would do, put their badge and sponsor on it and had an alternate jersey for their match at Cottbus (See link, link or link.) Naturally because of the really small number of jersey made these will be real collector’s items real soon.)

    Kei Igawa was introduced as a member of the yankees today. Usual press conference fare, with him trying on a jersey, he is wearing number 29, which he wore with the Hanshin Tigers. Along those lines, I was wondering whether there has been any word on whether the Yankees or any other team which Cory Lidle (R.I.P.) has played for are planning any type of memorial for him?

    [quote comment=”39355″]@specs: I can talk a little bit about the process at adidas, b/c, as I said, I talked to the guy doing most of the dealings with the Bundesliga teams. (Hope I’m getting this right, was a while back) He said that they (adidas) come to the teams with their templates and some first design ideas. The officials (usually chairman, managing director, coach) then decide on some of the ideas, give their own feedback on posible changes. After that adidas comes back to them with three choices and the officials choose one. I guess it’s kind of an economic decision for the teams not to design the unis themselves. You’d have to contract the design process out, spend money on that, then find someone to manufacture it. When the suplier does all the design work you save money on that side and b/c the manufacturer produces large amounts of the jerseys beceause they’re templated anyways. While I gues for large-market teams like Bayern Munich it might be lucrative to do all that themselves for small-market teams the amount of jersey sold usually isn’t high enough to warrant an autonomous design-manufactoring process, I guess.
    (Little sidenote, Nuremberg actually did “manufacture” their alternate jersey for this season, they just bought a regular set of templated jersey without any logo or sponsoring on it, like any rec-league team would do, put their badge and sponsor on it and had an alternate jersey for their match at Cottbus (See link, link or link.) Naturally because of the really small number of jersey made these will be real collector’s items real soon.)[/quote]

    That makes sense, and to me somewhat validates the use of templates, at least for professional teams. While it would be nice to see every team in the World Cup have a unique jersey, it just doesn’t seem like a realistic option for club teams, or for college basketball teams for that matter. I think it just means that you have to evaluate and critique those uniforms differently than North American football, basketball, baseball, and hockey uniforms.

    Sorry, but I need to chime in on something,
    GO BUCKEYES!!!
    needed that there. anyway, do you think the people at UF know how dumb it looks to have that HUGE patch on their jerseys?

    oh, and GO BUCKEYES! Wanted to get that in one more time!

    Who has the better unis in the BCS Championship game tonight? I personally linkits a link

    I really like Florida’s blue/orange pairing…too bad they don’t rock the throwbacks that they wore earlier this season…shoulder stripes, white helmets. They were pretty link.

    At least they’re not wearing link.

    (Hope the links work…)

    Related to playoff throwbacks. How sweet would it be if both the chargers and pats wore their throwbacks? Most people love the powder blue with bolts, but I also think the old pat patriot logo is great.

    I think it just means that you have to evaluate and critique those uniforms differently than North American football, basketball, baseball, and hockey uniforms.

    That’s to a point what I mentioned yesterday when I said that having grown up with suppliers’ logos on the shirts of my teams (club and national) I never found anything wrong with it. It’s a different sort of “uni-culture” (which, btw, isn’t homogenous all across Europe, the number of replica shirts worn in the stands in England is significantly higher than, say, in Germany). However, the use of templates (while they’ve always been used) has come to more attention over the years. I guess it’s a mixture of more widespread ability to see teams from other countries (wearing the same uniform-styles as your team), more recognizable templates, a heightened general interest in uniforms (and replica shirts) and a general frustration regarding corporation-football-relations in general.

    [quote comment=”39287″][quote comment=”39270″]I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?[/quote]

    The “only twice” rule was instituted in part to protect the league’s retailing partners. If you run a Sports Authority outlet and have a shitload of standard Bills jerseys in stock, you don’t want the Bills to start wearing throwbacks every week. In short, another case of the merchandising tail wagging the on-field dog.[/quote]

    What is the exact specification of this rule? I know the Bears have worn three non-regular uniform combos throughout the year:

    –White jersey/white pants
    –Blue jersey/blue pants
    –Orange jersey/blue pants

    The reason Florida is wearing their homes and Ohio State is wearing their aways is due to the alphabetic position of their schools. Typically the first school alphabetically in bowls will wear their home jerseys. I am unsure if they even have a choice (i.e. LSU first alphabetically, but I am unaware if they wore their traditional whites for the Sugar Bowl. And Roy Williams’ black band could be a Sully (a constrictive rubber sleeve worn over the torso) or strap attached to shoulder pads, both of whose functions is to keep the shoulder from popping out of place – to elaborate on a previous post.

    On Saturday I photographed a hockey game between Dexter (I know you’re out there, Dexter native) and St. Francis Cabrini. And before the game even started, I realized that you all have ruined me: when Cabrini took the ice for warmups, my first thought was wow, I link their link.

    Just a few football “accessories” questions I thought up while going back for the first day of class today. Wondered if maybe someone here could answer them.

    1. Do players tend to stick to the same old equipment in the NFL? I noticed this on the fact that players often wear gloves that are a few years old, when there are newer, nicer models available. Also linemen often wear cleat models that are close to way out of date.
    Is this what they wore in college and chose to keep it in the NFL? Maybe they can get anything they want, probably the case, but why keep old gear?

    2. Why are gloves in NCAA football only allowed to be gray, while the NFL is not really strict at all on colours? You see ALL or as far as I know all college football teams wearing gray gloves, even though that may not match their teams colours.

    3. Do players actually wear Turf cleats (No spike plate on the bottom) while on grass-imitating Field Turf? link a pic that I took of Ben R.’s “cleats” when he played on the Falcon’s field turf. I often notice this on linemen also, which seems like it really puts you at a disadvantage for sticking a block, as you could easily lose grip.

    I play for my highschool’s football team and we have Field Turf. I have a pair of football turf shoes for the weight room, and don’t think I would feel comfortable going out to play on the actual field with these.

    Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance to any answers!

    ESPN Classic is showing right now a boxing match (from the early 1970s I think, but I haven’t seen particulars on the match yet) in which one of the boxers (I think I heard the commentator call him ‘Buchanan’, which makes sense) is wearing plaid–yes plaid–boxing trunks. I’ve seen some crazy boxing getups before, but never plaid.

    It is absolutely amazing how the Buckeyes can pull off the white jerseys with red number on top of the gray pants, but the NY Giants make them look like complete shit. Take a note from Ohio State, gray pants only look good with a white jersey if you have a gray helmet.

    [quote comment=”39378″]Just a few football “accessories” questions I thought up while going back for the first day of class today. Wondered if maybe someone here could answer them.

    1. Do players tend to stick to the same old equipment in the NFL? I noticed this on the fact that players often wear gloves that are a few years old, when there are newer, nicer models available. Also linemen often wear cleat models that are close to way out of date.
    Is this what they wore in college and chose to keep it in the NFL? Maybe they can get anything they want, probably the case, but why keep old gear?

    2. Why are gloves in NCAA football only allowed to be gray, while the NFL is not really strict at all on colours? You see ALL or as far as I know all college football teams wearing gray gloves, even though that may not match their teams colours.

    3. Do players actually wear Turf cleats (No spike plate on the bottom) while on grass-imitating Field Turf? link a pic that I took of Ben R.’s “cleats” when he played on the Falcon’s field turf. I often notice this on linemen also, which seems like it really puts you at a disadvantage for sticking a block, as you could easily lose grip.

    I play for my highschool’s football team and we have Field Turf. I have a pair of football turf shoes for the weight room, and don’t think I would feel comfortable going out to play on the actual field with these.

    Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance to any answers![/quote]

    The only time I have ever worn Turf Shoes was my junior year Thanksgiving Day game when the field had froze over from the previous week’s sub-10 degree weather. I went out to our lineman warmups at like 8:30am (game starts at 10am) with my removable cleats on and all I did was slide during my blocks. The turfs were actually better because you gained some grip with the snow. My one game on turf (real 80’s style turf with no bounce or give) was prior to getting turf shoes and it was JV so the team just wore basketball sneakers.

    never mind i looked further and its the Packers. I didn’t think it would be them because it looks like a navy and yellow jersey with gold pants. Crazy

    dont know if anyone else caught it but one of floridas DBs is wearing one of his mis-matched gator print sleeves on his head brian dawkins style. guess thats one way to un-mismatch your sleeves

    Just saw a close up of Troy Smith and his mouthguard has the link on it. I thought this was pretty cool as long as it isn’t link or link.

    Dont know if anyone in New York caught it, but they had the guy from Stitches, the business that does all the uniform work for the mets. He talked about sewing Pedro’s “mesh panel” into the jersey, and Edgardo Alfonso having his socks sewn into the bottom of his pants, has anyone heard of that before?

    After some research you can kinda see it link. Maybe we talked about this before but I still think its cool.

    [quote comment=”39364″][quote comment=”39287″][quote comment=”39270″]I know the NFL teams are restricted to wearing their alts/throwbacks to twice during the regular season. Is there a rule that prevents them from wearing them in playoff games? Why only twice?[/quote]

    The “only twice” rule was instituted in part to protect the league’s retailing partners. If you run a Sports Authority outlet and have a shitload of standard Bills jerseys in stock, you don’t want the Bills to start wearing throwbacks every week. In short, another case of the merchandising tail wagging the on-field dog.[/quote]

    What is the exact specification of this rule? I know the Bears have worn three non-regular uniform combos throughout the year:

    –White jersey/white pants
    –Blue jersey/blue pants
    –Orange jersey/blue pants[/quote]

    The rule pertains only to the two uses of an alternate jersey, not atypical jersey/pants combos.

    [quote comment=”39398″]Dont know if anyone in New York caught it, but they had the guy from Stitches, the business that does all the uniform work for the mets. He talked about sewing Pedro’s “mesh panel” into the jersey, and Edgardo Alfonso having his socks sewn into the bottom of his pants, has anyone heard of that before?[/quote]

    That would be Russ Gompers. In a completely incredible coincidence, I found myself sitting next to him at a ballgame in 2004. Had no idea who he was. We started chatting the way people do at a ballgame, and he mentioned that he did all the stitching on the Mets’ uniforms. After I picked my jaw up off the floor, I told him what I do. I wrote an article about him, link.

    [quote comment=”39381″]ESPN Classic is showing right now a boxing match (from the early 1970s I think, but I haven’t seen particulars on the match yet) in which one of the boxers (I think I heard the commentator call him ‘Buchanan’, which makes sense) is wearing plaid–yes plaid–boxing trunks. I’ve seen some crazy boxing getups before, but never plaid.[/quote]

    That would be Ken Buchanan, a Scottish fighter who wore a Scotch plaid pattern on his trunks. Roberto Duran’s first title victory was over him — a lightweight bout at Madison Square Garden in 1972. Photos link, link, and link.

    Ah yes, the famous Texas Stadium quote. I was living in Dallas at the time and made it to one of the very first games- what a thrill. The quote is attributed to DD Lewis:

    Built to replace the aging Cotton Bowl, Texas Stadium was to have originally been a domed stadium, but the stadium could not support the weight of the entire roof, and public funding ran out before the roof support structure could be modified. This resulted in most of the stands being enclosed but not the playing field itself. This unusual arrangement – more commonly seen in European soccer stadiums – prompted Cowboys linebacker D.D. Lewis to make his now-famous quip that the “hole” in the stadium’s roof was there “so that God can watch His team.”

    [quote comment=”39362″]Related to playoff throwbacks. How sweet would it be if both the chargers and pats wore their throwbacks? Most people love the powder blue with bolts, but I also think the old pat patriot logo is great.[/quote]

    Bob Kraft is adament that they will not wear the old jersey/helmet designs due to the fact that the team stuck for the vast majority of the years that they wore the old Pat Patriot design.

    Frankly the only Patriots throwback I want to see is the link worn during the 1960 season and only in honor of the 50th anniversary of the AFL.

    [quote comment=”39321″]why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?[/quote]

    It’s not blue, it’s actually gray, which is UT’s “third” color. It comes across blue on TV and also, I think, because it’s just a weird shade.

    I’d thought this before too, but after some extensive research…it’s grey.

    And the Women’s BBall team isn’t the only one’s you’ll notice this on, so it can’t be just that specific uniform. I’m apt to think it’s some weird new template color they’ve adopted.

    Ok, I read some more comments and I’m wrong, that’s clearly light blue in the pics someone linked to …

    but my point about the blue-gray still stands…

    [quote comment=”39352″]Okay, I admit my “innocent-until-proven-guilty_ approach with this year’s line of adidas uniforms was stupidly optimistic. However, I think there’s another aspect to the debate on soccer templates. There are a TON of professional/national soccer teams. While there is no excuse for suppliers to cop out and use templates for the relatively small number of teams in the World Cup, it is unrealistic to expect adidas, Nike, or anyone else to come up with a different design for every single professional team. In the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL, the uniforms are all different, but don’t the teams design the uniforms themselves (not to mention that they change much less frequently than soccer uniforms)? In soccer, how much fault is that of the suppliers, and how much of it falls on the individual teams for not designing their own uniforms?[/quote]

    In the US, teams do the design once, and it transcends years and manufacturers until they feel like changing. In soccer, they change every year or every other year, depending on the leauge (Celtic change their home shirt in one year, and their away in the next)…

    When did this start? I’ll guess in the 80s when it got all corporate and shirt sponsorships started. Would be interesting to investigate.

    no its not, the lady vols clearly wear blue in thier jerseys and its in thier logo, its not grey

    [quote comment=”39352″]Okay, I admit my “innocent-until-proven-guilty_ approach with this year’s line of adidas uniforms was stupidly optimistic. However, I think there’s another aspect to the debate on soccer templates. There are a TON of professional/national soccer teams. While there is no excuse for suppliers to cop out and use templates for the relatively small number of teams in the World Cup, it is unrealistic to expect adidas, Nike, or anyone else to come up with a different design for every single professional team. In the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL, the uniforms are all different, but don’t the teams design the uniforms themselves (not to mention that they change much less frequently than soccer uniforms)? In soccer, how much fault is that of the suppliers, and how much of it falls on the individual teams for not designing their own uniforms?[/quote]

    One thing that many people might not be aware of is that Rangers in Scotland actually did design their own uniforms each of the last three years (but not this year). I’m not sure exactly how they handled it, but their Umbro kit last year, along with their Diadora kits the two years prior to that were not standard templates. Instead, they designed their own and Diadora/Umbro paid to basically have their name on the shirt. For all I know, they may have even manufactured them – but they didn’t design them.

    Another thing that separates soccer jerseys from other sports is their affordability. If you want to wear an NFL or MLB jersey that is remotely similar to what the pros wear, you can look forward to spending about $250. In soccer, however, you can get a jersey that is only very slightly different from what the pros wear for a maximum of about $75. When the season is over, that number goes down considerably.

    ——THIS JUST IN:

    THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA GATORS ARE NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPS! GO FLORIDA!

    F – L – O – R – I – D – A !

    Mismatched undershirts sleeves and all!!

    The reason the NCAA mandated gray gloves was because a few years back offensive lineman were wearing gloves that were the same color as their opponents jersey (a sort of camo for their hands in the thought that it would reduce holding calls). The only school with a gray jersey at the time was, I believe, Eastern Michigan, so gray was decided as a neutral color for all NCAA teams to abide by. I’m assuming that the NFL simply gave orders to the uniform police to crack down on this practice.

    And many players wear turf shoes on the AstroPlay/FieldTruf, it is a sort of personal preference thing between turf, rain turf (which was invented years ago-longer nubs for slick turf that apparently didn’t work so well, but was reintroduced with the advent of FieldTurf/AstroPlay) and the molded 10 stud (or so) plastic spike as opposed to the standard seven spike grass football cleat, which does typically provide substandard footing (to the other variations of shoes) on AstroPlay/FieldTurf.

    When being interviewed post-game just now, Coach Meyer said, “Nike’s been good to our school, so we have to be good to Nike.”

    Then he finished his speech and took off of the jacket.

    Man, Nike gets the credit for helping the Gators win…

    “Nike’s been good to us so we gotta be good to them” -Urban Meyer after winnin the title….gotta love the free commercial

    Wow, if I knew what a great recruiter and coach NIKE was, I’d want my team to hire it! I mean, if it weren’t for Nike, Ben Hill Griffin Stadium would not be the ridiculous place it is today, Florida wouldn’t have been able to recruit such people as Chris Leak and Tim Tebow, and Urban Meyer wouldn’t be their coach. Nike might’ve helped fix that stupid kicker, though. 4-13 in regular season. BAH!

    On a lighter note: good job Gators! You own major college sports for the time being.

    One of the Florida players interviewed had one of the mismatched undershirts on but both sleeves were cut off and written on the shirt was “You can do things with CHRIST.” or something like that. I think it’s a little apropo with our discussion on Roy Williams and his church’s sticker.

    [quote comment=”39419″]——THIS JUST IN:

    THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA GATORS ARE NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPS! GO FLORIDA!

    F – L – O – R – I – D – A !

    Mismatched undershirts sleeves and all!![/quote]

    I believe you mean the BOISE STATE BRONCOS are national college football champions right?

    Although its almost a good thing those two teams won’t be matched up (aesthetically) could you imagine all the retina-straining orange and blue?

    Being a life-long Milwaukee Brewers fan, I am pretty embarassed to announce that the Crew will be recognizing the 25th anniversary of making it to the World Series this year. Now, I am from Wisconsin, I love Wisconsin sports but come on! I mean, it was bad enough the Packers celebrated their anniversary of a Super Bowl 10 years ago this year, but to celebrate losing a World Series? They havn’t even made the playoffs since that World Series loss. Here is what the website said:

    “he marquee attraction will be on Thursday night in Miller Park’s .300 Club, an invitation-only gathering to be broadcast live at brewers.com, on FSN North television and on 620-AM WTMJ radio. The shows will feature live interviews with players, including newcomers Jeff Suppan and Johnny Estrada, plus the unveiling of plans to honor the 25th anniversary of the Brewers’ only World Series appearance.

    Thursday’s agenda also includes Suppan’s first in-house press conference, and a live chat with general manager Doug Melvin and manager Ned Yost on MLB.com.

    “It’s got a lot of moving pieces, but we’re looking at three days of baseball being all over the news, and that’s exciting,” said Tyler Barnes, the Brewers’ vice president of communications. “It’s time to start thinking about spring again, and that means talking about baseball.”

    Commissioner Bud Selig, legendary broadcaster Bob Uecker and a number of the 1982 Brewers will be on hand to help introduce the team’s plans to recognize that squad, which took St. Louis to a seventh game in the World Series. The Brewers will honor the ’82 team throughout the 2007 season with special events, giveaways and appearances.

    “It’s certainly going to be prominent on our promotional schedule,” Barnes said.

    During the broadcasts, the Brewers will unveil a ticket offer available over the phone. Select calls will be fielded by Brewers alumni, a group scheduled to include Jerry Augustine, Jim Gantner, Larry Hisle, Ben Oglivie and Gorman Thomas.”
    – From Brewers.com

    They are recognizing not making the playoffs in 25 years! This is insane. The article didn’t mention anything about patches on the unis or anything so that is good, but it doesn’t mean it can’t happen. Let’s hope not.

    [quote comment=”39427″][quote comment=”39419″]——THIS JUST IN:

    THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA GATORS ARE NATIONAL COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPS! GO FLORIDA!

    F – L – O – R – I – D – A !

    Mismatched undershirts sleeves and all!![/quote]

    I believe you mean the BOISE STATE BRONCOS are national college football champions right?

    Although its almost a good thing those two teams won’t be matched up (aesthetically) could you imagine all the retina-straining orange and blue?[/quote]

    How about Florida – Boise State on Boise’s blue turf?

    Ted Ginn, Jr. has been mentioned before for his unusual facemasks, but tonight he had multiple uni infractions… first, link (instead of the usual OSU black) with black tape over them. This is similar to what Chad Johnson’s done all year with his orange cleats and black tape… but that was minor.

    link… he pretty much wore a play-calling wristband as a belt buckle on a loose red belt. It reminded me of when Shinjo wore his link in the summer… and reminding anyone of Shinjo is certainly not a compliment.

    Other news, from Nike World… Nike’s Huarache 2k4 shoes have now hit link, in addition to already being seen in link and link. Is the design that good that they can’t come up with something better?

    Yay I got quoted!! Yesterday, had I been thinking about it, I was gonna take my digi camera around because I knew that where ever I stopped somebody would have the IBOC logo on their car or person.

    Some football uni history that, for some reason or another, I never realized existed on my own university’s history page.

    Shot from the first Indiana-Purdue Old Oaken Bucket (being held by the guy in the coat on the right) game in 1925 showing off some referee duds and some nice stripes on the football player in the back: pic

    I am surprised that no one has mentioned Deion Branch’s lime-green gloves, mostly because of how popular they have become among Seahawks fans.

    – MRB

    [quote]You can buy a Jack Traschner jersey on MLB.com. Only problem is, the player’s name is actually Taschner (good catch by Kevin Cunningham)[/quote]

    I think the real question here is, why was anyone trying to purchase a Jack Taschner jersey? ;)

    You can buy a Jack Traschner jersey on MLB.com. Only problem is, the player’s name is actually Taschner (good catch by Kevin Cunningham

    I don’t understand why this is unique at all. You can clearly tell by the image URL that someone just typed TRASCHNER into the custom jersey preview. You could do it with any name.

    link

    [quote comment=”39418″][quote comment=”39352″]Okay, I admit my “innocent-until-proven-guilty_ approach with this year’s line of adidas uniforms was stupidly optimistic. However, I think there’s another aspect to the debate on soccer templates. There are a TON of professional/national soccer teams. While there is no excuse for suppliers to cop out and use templates for the relatively small number of teams in the World Cup, it is unrealistic to expect adidas, Nike, or anyone else to come up with a different design for every single professional team. In the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL, the uniforms are all different, but don’t the teams design the uniforms themselves (not to mention that they change much less frequently than soccer uniforms)? In soccer, how much fault is that of the suppliers, and how much of it falls on the individual teams for not designing their own uniforms?[/quote]

    One thing that many people might not be aware of is that Rangers in Scotland actually did design their own uniforms each of the last three years (but not this year). I’m not sure exactly how they handled it, but their Umbro kit last year, along with their Diadora kits the two years prior to that were not standard templates. Instead, they designed their own and Diadora/Umbro paid to basically have their name on the shirt. For all I know, they may have even manufactured them – but they didn’t design them.

    Another thing that separates soccer jerseys from other sports is their affordability. If you want to wear an NFL or MLB jersey that is remotely similar to what the pros wear, you can look forward to spending about $250. In soccer, however, you can get a jersey that is only very slightly different from what the pros wear for a maximum of about $75. When the season is over, that number goes down considerably.[/quote]
    Ewwwww, Rangers!

    But seriously, this year’s shirt doesn’t look that templatey.

    [quote comment=”39403″]
    [quote comment=”39381″]ESPN Classic is showing right now a boxing match (from the early 1970s I think, but I haven’t seen particulars on the match yet) in which one of the boxers (I think I heard the commentator call him ‘Buchanan’, which makes sense) is wearing plaid–yes plaid–boxing trunks. I’ve seen some crazy boxing getups before, but never plaid.[/quote]

    That would be Ken Buchanan, a Scottish fighter who wore a Scotch plaid pattern on his trunks. Roberto Duran’s first title victory was over him — a lightweight bout at Madison Square Garden in 1972. Photos link, link, and link.[/quote]

    In that case, it’s probably the link and it does look like it to me.

    [quote comment=”39465″]You can buy a Jack Traschner jersey on MLB.com. Only problem is, the player’s name is actually Taschner (good catch by Kevin Cunningham

    I don’t understand why this is unique at all. You can clearly tell by the image URL that someone just typed TRASCHNER into the custom jersey preview. You could do it with any name.

    link[/quote]

    Wow…I just looked and you can notice that…not cool

    [quote comment=”39387″]can anyone tell me who the team in the yellow is on that link

    I can’t figure it out.[/quote]
    That’s the Packers.

    [quote comment=”39387″]can anyone tell me who the team in the yellow is on that link

    I can’t figure it out.[/quote]

    The team in yellow in the photo is the Green Bay Packers.

    [quote comment=”39339″][quote comment=”39327″][quote comment=”39321″]why do the tennessee vols women’s basketball team have light blue on their jerseys? do any of the other tennessee teams have any blue on their unis?[/quote]
    The women’s athletics programs at Tennessee have added blue to their color-scheme (this happenned a while back). In fact, the women’s programs have their own dedicated website: link.

    I kinda liken it to how the men’s teams have added black to their color-scheme: link.

    Personally…I like the blue in the women’s teams…but the black needs to go.[/quote]

    As I recall, there was a time when UT’s men’s teams — football, at least — also sported some blue (more of a royal).[/quote]

    Normally I’m against adding black, but Tennessee’s shade of orange is so light that you really need that bit of black trim on the numbers and letters so you can read them from a distance. It wouldn’t bother me to see them add the black trim to the white numbers on the orange jersey.

    Regarding the light blue trim – I remember the men’s basketball team had a bit of blue trim on the jersey letters/numbers and on the shorts back in the mid-1970s. The Sports Illustrated site is blocked here, but there was a cover of Bernard King and Ernie Grunfeld (sp?) wearing those from circa 1975-1977.

    [quote comment=”39519″]Normally I’m against adding black, but Tennessee’s shade of orange is so light that you really need that bit of black trim on the numbers and letters so you can read them from a distance. It wouldn’t bother me to see them add the black trim to the white numbers on the orange jersey.[/quote]
    Maybe, but if that’s teh case…how come the UT football helmets lack the black outline? I think it looks really bad to have the away jerseys with the black outlines on the numbers and the black font on the nameplates with the orange and white helmets.

    [quote comment=”39232″]Pat, I see you beat me to the Jorge Campos reference. Kudos to you on that.

    I don’t see how anybody could discuss soccer uniforms and not at least make mention of Campos. The nicest thing I can think to say is that he certainly wore the most unique uniforms in the sport.[/quote]

    No, you’re wrong, the nicest thing we can say about Campos is that he’s retired. :)

    [quote comment=”39244″][quote comment=”39234″]Are keepers the only player on the team that can wear the number 1? This has been bothering me since World Cup time.[/quote]

    Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.[/quote]
    they did the same thing in 1978 where Norberto Alonso was no. 1 & starting GK Pato Fillol was 5.

    [quote comment=”39360″]Sorry, but I need to chime in on something,
    GO BUCKEYES!!!
    needed that there. anyway, do you think the people at UF know how dumb it looks to have that HUGE patch on their jerseys?

    oh, and GO BUCKEYES! Wanted to get that in one more time![/quote]

    Just one thing to add:

    ” L “

    [quote comment=”39195″]Anybody know where I can get a brand-new SF Giants “Barry Zrito” jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes…

    link

    …because the link is dynamic. You can give it any name/number combo you want…

    link

    Oh, and way to Go Gators!

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